Songs of Praise

[downbeatplumb]

I have to agree with Frodo here.
If I were in the crowd and someone claimed to turn water into wine I'd wonder how the trick was done.
I would not think this man must be God, I'd think he was a magician.
But how do we know they werent tricks, If they could be interpreted as tricks whats to say the weren't.

It wouldnt be the only time people performed tricks and claim they are real. (I'm looking at you Yuri Geller)

I agree with you that some miracles might have left some of these primative, Nomadic goat herders wondering but certain miracles (or tricks as you might call them) simply just can't be explained. Imagine you had a brother callled Lazarus. You've seen him die and you buried him yourself. He has been dead for 4 days. Then a guy called Jesus comes along who claims that he is the saviour and the son of God and raises your brother from the dead. You are not going to see that as a trick but rather as a miracle and proof of God! Here is the story of Lazarus: (http://christianity.about.com/od/biblest...azarus.htm)

Or imagine you were blind, crippled and Jesus healed you? Then you're actually part of his miracle. How can you possibly take it as a trick? At the moment you are looking at the miracles through modern day eyes. The fact is that these people were primative and the miracles conclusive. Some you simply can't refute.

Here are some more (not even Yuri Geller or David Blain can pull these ones off ):

· The ten plagues of Egypt, The parting of the Red Sea, Healing of the leper (Matthew 8), Calming of the sea (Matthew 8), The blind men healed (Matthew 9), A man with the withered hand (Matthew 12), The feeding of the multitude (Matthew 14), Walking on water (Matthew 14), · The little child near death healed (Mark 4), The lame man made whole (John 5), The blind man healed (John 9).

The ten plagues of Egypt conform pretty well to what would happen in the event of a supervolcanic eruption.

Parting the red sea may have been the reed sea sea which is a sort of marsh where the waters part in a strong wind.

The above two I think were natural events claimed by the religious to make their claims more forcefull.

As for the healings, I'd like to see the full medical records and the treating Drs history before making any judgements.

As the blind man said in the life of brian 'I was blind but now I can see' just before falling in a hole.

I work in the medical field, and have seen a lot of spurious claims made that were not backed up by the records.