(November 18, 2009 at 11:13 am)Craveman Wrote:(November 17, 2009 at 4:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's quite the opposite - the reasoning for God requires that there be no proof.Aren't all the miracles and Jesus proof for Christianity? If what you stated above is true then God would never have performed any miracles and Jesus would never have shown himself on earth.
downbeatplumb: This is where it all started. frOdO argues that there be no proof. Do you agree with him on this point then? I argue that Jesus (in the flesh) and some of the miracles are. I still agree with you that certain miracles might leave people wondering but don't see how all can be explained. (Remember that I'm arguing from a xtian pov to try and prove my point so I'm going to take all the miracles in the Bible as true)
So if all the miracles did happen and Jesus did die on the cross and rose again after, how would you explain it (as a person living in that time)? Imagine your were Thomas: "A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!". Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
If you were one of the deciples won't you take this as proof?
Spinoza Wrote:God is the Asylum of Ignorance
