RE: My reasoning in rejecting eternal torture/hell...
April 5, 2013 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2013 at 4:37 pm by Brian37.)
(April 4, 2013 at 5:17 pm)catfish Wrote:(April 4, 2013 at 1:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Stupid question. It is written in the book that he ADMITS he is jealous. And hell as a concept reflects that jealousy. Now please proceed with your dodging and cherry picking.
Stupid answer. The original Hebrew word means jealous/zealous.
Please proceed to cherrypick "jealous"...
Of course it does not mean that, because "interpretation" is always the dodge. Ok have it "Yahweh", "zealous", my bad. 19 hijackers were "zealous" in their belief too, didn't turn out so well for 3,000 people.
"Jealous or zealous" it still amounts to a head character that wants everything his way and anyone who gets in his way gets hurt.
AND you included jealous yourself as a meaning, read your own words.
Not to mention the Hebrew god is a rip off of the storm god Yahweh of the Canaanite pantheon.
It doesn't bother you that this alleged all powerful being writes this instruction manual so well that no one can agree on the instructions or how they should be "interpreted".
Look this is how it works for you, for Jews, for Christians, and for Muslims.
"Interpretation" coincides always with the one who claims "I got it right".
If I owned a bicycle factory and hired your god to write the assembly instructions, the bike would end up with squid for spokes, and a peanut butter and Jelly sandwich for a seat, and I'd have to keep re hiring employees because they would kill each other over which version of assembly instructions to put in the box.
Take your god goggles off. They way the god character of all the gods Abraham are written, is a nasty guy who does not take kindly to dissent, call it what you want.
Thats like arguing someone is less dead if they get stabbed in the heart vs shot in the heart.
Zealous is the same family as zealot. Which makes your deity an obsessed asshole.
(April 5, 2013 at 10:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote:(April 5, 2013 at 1:02 am)radorth Wrote: ...the early Quaker and Methodist abolitionists and all those to follow, the first builders of hospitals and asylums, the first to march for civil rights, all the men and women who demanded religious freedom under intense persecution, all of which led to your freedom , a freedom you use to completely distort history as if unbelievers ever did much more than invent some medical cures and a hydrogen bomb. And when they did do something big, like Communism, or the French Revolution it was a bloody disaster that made the Inquisitions look surprisingly civil.I could not have said this better myself. Excellent work.
SO if no other sect of any other religion were capable of doing good, then evolution would be dependent on that particular label and it really would own rights to inventing morality. It takes religion to divide humanity and it takes those within religion to ignore their own dogma to stay relevant to the social norms of their time.
Oh and the old COMMIE dictator bullshit. You do realize that for oppression to work it requires an unmovable absolute power, like God?
