RE: Proving God Existence
April 7, 2013 at 11:54 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2013 at 12:00 pm by Mystic.)
(April 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm)Tex Wrote: That proof may work for Islam because they hold to Divine Command, but it does not work all the time.
The Quran doesn't suggest divine command theory at all. It takes about the face of God that remains and that is found everywhere. It talks about the light of God in humanity. It specifically says God commands towards what is just and good and forbids evil and indecency. It defines God like that. Furthermore it talks about the "good tree" in humanity, and that the firm word that he establishes believers by, is rooted in the ground and extends to the heavens.
Furthermore, the hadiths talk about God becoming the hearing by which believers hear, the seeing by which they see.
Where do you get the notion that Islam is set up of divine command theory?
It rather seems God commands what is good because it is good. In the case of Ibrahim, he tested him, to bring about opportunity to trust God.
If God can do whatever he wants and it would be good, then he can lie. And if he is lying, you have no idea whether you should follow the Quran or not.
Shiite Islam hadiths have even more elaborate issue about the nature of good and how it's eternally linked to God's own essence.
Furthermore the "Holy Spirit" is said to be "The Command of God", and the holy spirit is said to be "breathed into Adam" and is "the spirit of God".
There is no evidence to suggest divine command theory.
In fact, it says "verily God does not command towards what is evil and indecent".
Furthermore, Quran regards all of his names are ultimately beautiful and that God is One, which means his names "The Guide" or all descriptions of God in Quran, are all pointing to same glory.
In fact, the very basis, that it is "a guidance" and that he will give the believers a light by which they walk by and distinguisher, suggests other than divine command theory.
At any rate, from Islamic point of view, as far I can tell, the Euthyphro dilemna is a false one, and the answer is both:
Is is good to do what is good because it is good, and because God commands it, and God commands what is good because it is good.
You can derive all that from Quran.