God's God

[Mystic]

Again, this is attempting special pleading b/c we can apply "immense power" to anything we want (including the global universe).

Well the universe is made out of small parts that aren't immensely powerful. We know an atom cannot be causing the whole universe to exist by it's sheer power for example. This is not special pleading.

You're just making up things (speculation) about the deity you already assumed exists (as a maneuver out of the fallacy) but we can do that with the global universe too.

You can assume these powers for the deity but you can't assume that for the global universe since it's made out of small parts that we know don't have supernatural power.

Third, you haven't demonstrated that your alleged deity has "immense power" or "supernatural power". As I anticipated in the OP, you've ASSERTED it. But saying it is so, doesn't make it so.

But if every small existence needed to be caused and maintained, and the universe is made out of small existence forming bigger existing things, it naturally follows that there needs to be an immense super power maintaining the universe.

Again this is not special pleading.

No, what's silly is your arbitrary assertion that your deity 'Allah' doesn't need an explanation of it's existence when in fact you demand an explanation of the existence of humans, the universe, the global universe etc. That IS in fact special pleading.

It's not, because "Allah" is independent by definition, while everything else, is dependant by definition from the Islamic view point. That is the nature of less existence, which implies a need for an independent existence.

Does existence need an explanation for it's existence? Then your God does too.

This is just re-asserting the conclusion. So I won't bother.

Btw, you have no examples of anything "causing itself" to exist. That is incoherent.

It would naturally follow to the person that has the perspective every existence needs a perpetual cause.

These statements are meaningless. I have no idea WTF you're talking about. "Cannot lack any life"? This is more arbitrary defining of your deity into existence - which is absurd. WOW CREDULITY.

Well you said given "God" exists, you would have to explain why other Gods didn't create him or no other Gods exist causing him to exist, and I explained why, given the BIG G exists, he would not need it.

Again, I showed why it's not special pleading in the case of God.

It doesn't matter if God is made up (which I believe he partially is) or not, I have shown why it's not special pleading to say he doesn't require a cause outside himself to constant exist or need an explanation outside himself as the necessary being, while maintaining possible existence or lesser type existence, needs a cause.