RE: God's God
April 8, 2013 at 3:31 pm
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2013 at 3:34 pm by median.)
(April 8, 2013 at 2:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: A lot of words which disproves nothing. The only reason you ever challenge Christians to prove God is because you believe God who is Spirit can not be proven. What you can't understand about those who seek God, we know Him through His revelation to us of who He is. Because you have not sought Him, how is it you believe you're qualified to dismiss Him? You want something to disprove, try my relationship with God, disprove I have not experienced the God of the Bible. I did not try to bring God into existence through omni- anything, God has always existed and because of this He is omni, whether you want to accept it or not, what you will never be able to do is wish the God of creation out of existence. Try as you may, He's not going away.
1. HA! The "proving" is your job there, not mine.
2. The reason why I challenge Christians (as I used to be one of you and used your same arguments) is irrelevant to the truth or falsity of your case. The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate how you know your specific deity is actually real.
3. Huh? What is a "spirit"? This term is just as incoherent as the term "God" or "Yahweh" or "Allah". Anyone can makeup any fictitious character they want. It doesn't make it true or actually real. You need definite primary characteristics, not just hear-say or secondary anecdotes. It seems you don't actually care whether or not your beliefs are actually true. You just want to believe your assumption.
4. As is so typical with you Christian apologists, when you have no better come back, you commit the fallacy of Shifting the Burden of Proof (as well as the "b/c I said so" fallacy). NOPE! I won't fall for it. It's not my job to disprove your claim to "experience God". I used to say the same thing. But all religions in the world ultimately fall back to some non-demonstrable, internal, invisible, subjective (gay sounding), subjective "personal experience" they think they had with the one specific deity they grew up with in their culture (Yahweh in America, Allah in the Middle East, Krishna in Southeast Asia, etc). So what! Just because you think you had some "experience" doesn't mean your interpretation of that experience is true. It just shows that you don't care whether your beliefs are actually true and that you are willing to practice credulity, gullibility, and irrational argumentation to keep believing what you assumed from the start.
5. HA! Your last bit is comedy. First you say you "didn't try to bring God into existence" (by attempting to define this alleged being into being), and then you proceed to do just that! How do you know this deity exists? Can you demonstrate it? Again, if all you have is some subjective personal experience, and an ultimate fall-back onto "faith" then you really have nothing b/c faith is just gullibility dressed up. It isn't a reliable pathway to separating fact from fiction. Anyone can just have faith in anything. That doesn't prove a damn-thing.
"Try as you may, Santa Claus is not going away!"
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