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Actually, my presentation of the cosmological argument has nothing to to with inserting entities into an area of unknown. Quite the opposite. I made a deduction from what is already known.

Where is your evidence that something can't come from nothing, when you have no 'nothing' to examine in which something could derive? Again, argument from ignorance. The statement "whatever begins to exist must have a cause" follows trivially. So what. Nothing in Kalam demonstrates anything like what you need to demonstrate a deity. It just displays you're hidden premise, "Well, it just couldn't be anything else but an eternal cosmic disembodied mind!"

Apparently you missed, ignored, or do not read at a high enough level to understand my earlier post. Any reasonable person can see that my belief in a necessary being is not an unsupported claim, despite your unsupported claim that my claim is unsupported. (That was fun to write)

The Post You Missed...

Actually I didn't miss the post at all. First, this "reasonable person" argument is a fallacy (No True Scotsman). "All reasonable people would agree with me. If they don't agree, they aren't reasonable." FAIL.

You're Zeno's paradox was already dealt with, back then and now. The mental mathematical process of thinking about abstract infinities has no bearing on the possibility of an infinity. This is just another big argument from ignorance. "I can't possibly understand how it could be X, therefore X (actual infinity - whatever that means) must be false." NOPE. It's also another God of the gaps type argument as well. You are attempting to use your intuitions about our local current state (and science has so often shown our intuitions false when it comes to finding truth), and trying to force those intuitions/non-comprehensibility onto anything else that might be the case (if you read more Hume you might know that) - instead of honestly admitting you don't know and withholding judgment. That is your fallacy. It's the ultimate form of credulity and human hubris.

Now, there is ample evidence from the sciences, including mathematics, philosophy, and physics demonstrating that our intuitions regarding the edges of our knowledge are often incorrect. As an example:

∞ + 3 = ∞

But does ∞ - ∞ = 3 (as can be shown algebraically)? No it does not. So too also, quantum physics also demonstrates that our intuitive understandings of things start to break-down here (with quantum indeterminacy, virtual particles, etc). So to say, "Actual infinities aren't possible" is simply an unsupported assertion (which is also the case for your claim that something can't come from 'nothing'). It's time to raise your standard of evidence, get honest with yourself when you don't know things, and keep it there.