RE: God's God
April 9, 2013 at 6:18 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2013 at 6:50 pm by median.)
(April 9, 2013 at 6:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ median and Ryan, Let's say I see a man stabbed and run to his aide, then the assailant stabs me leaves behind the knife and flees. Then a person comes along and finds us, the man I saw stabbed is dead and I'm dying. The person who finds us calls 911, the police arrive and ask me what happens, I tell them the name of the person who stabbed us, I tell them I've known him for years and he was a very unstable individual, I then die. This man is convicted on my dying testimony, why, I proved nothing, demonstrated nothing, for all anyone knows I stabbed the man, then he took the knife from me and stabbed me. Maybe I did not like the man I named and wanted revenge. Yet my dying testimony was all it took to convict this person, no proof he was even there other than what I said.
Why would you as a juror accept this? Even though I told the truth there is no demonstrable proof I did, so why is this man in jail.
As is so usual with you Christian apologists, you are (ever so subtly) committing the fallacy of a false analogy. First, we have plenty of examples of stabbings. We do NOT have plenty of examples of universes, deities, walking zombies from graves, water into wine, virgin births, etc. In fact, we DO have examples of man-made MYTHS from religions prior to Christianity regarding these types of extraordinary claims (Isis, Horus, Mithra, Krishna, Appolonius of Tiana, etc). Secondly, and even more importantly, you don't know the New Testament is accurate eye-witness testimony! You are simply taking it "on faith", b/c someone else told you when you were younger (they conned you into accepting it), you accepted it, started with your conclusion, and now you're desperately looking to confirm it by any means necessary. That is backwards! There is no contemporary evidence of a "Jesus of Nazareth", all writings came years later (i.e. - hearsay).
But it gets worse. Your analogy breaks down even further because jurors in a murder trial are set to make a verdict regarding guilty/not guilty. They DO NOT make verdict judgements on whether or not someone is innocent. They could not determine that. You need to do your research. If there was not sufficient evidence that person X stabbed you, and another person, he would go free. That is the way the justice system works. Likewise, I find your alleged deity "not guilty" of existing due to the lack of sound unequivocal evidence.
Btw, your stabbing analogy is much more appropriately put like this:
-A man wants someone to think he was stabbed but magically healed. So he stabs himself, falls down in an ally and waits
-You come along and fall for his trick
-He tells you to write down everything he has "shown" you and spread it around (and you are gullible, believe it, and write it down)
-You wind up in court where prosecutors ask where this man is who was stabbed and is now missing.
-You say he is a magic man and cannot be found.
-"Case dismissed!"
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