RE: God's God
April 9, 2013 at 8:44 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2013 at 8:47 pm by Ryantology.)
(April 9, 2013 at 7:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: Unfair, you calling unfair, now that's . You want physical proof of the spiritual, now that I think about it, you're being unreasonable and dishonest, especially when I've admitted I can't give any to people who close themselves off to the possibility. I have not tried to prove to you that my experiences are real, I made the statement that my experiences are real and you try to tell me I'm deluded. You have no spiritual evidence to the contrary of what I stated. When you come up with spiritual evidence to show I had no such experience I'll listen.
As no one has ever demonstrated the existence of anything 'spiritual' in a way that makes it objectively true, then I have to regard 'spiritual' evidence as made up and nonsensical.
I want physical proof of the being you insist created this physical world. How unfair. And way to dodge the content of the post once again, by the way.
(April 9, 2013 at 8:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: How childish can you be? Since you cannot easily refute the argument for a genetic supreme being, you move the goal post to prove a very specific deity.
Since you cannot prove the existence of your specific supreme being, you resort to failing to prove the existence of a generic supreme being in which you don't even believe.
I'm not childish just because you suck at this.
(April 9, 2013 at 4:37 pm) Wrote: Now you are just acting like a bully. I have proved what I wanted to prove. Atheism is not a rational choice.
Note to self: asking a person to prove the claims they make is 'bullying'. If you can't prove your assertions and you don't want them challenged, this is not the place for you, because I will do it.
(April 9, 2013 at 4:37 pm) Wrote: Boy, you’re making an awful lot of assumptions about my religion in order to avoid the discussion at hand. What makes you think my religion teaches that all other revelatory experiences are delusionary? God reaches out to people wherever they are belief-wise.
Billions of people adhere to religions which contradict yours. Millions of 'revelatory' experiences teach people 'truths' which do not coincide with yours at all. Your religion insists that there are no other gods. All of these revelations which do not agree with scripture are, according to that scripture, false. That's not an assumption. That's the first commandment.
You 'know' your revelations are true because you have an excessively overinflated idea of how much your own opinion is worth.
(April 9, 2013 at 4:37 pm) Wrote: The only intellectually valid thing is chose the an equally unconfirmed explanation you prefer. And you dare to accuse others of confirmation bias? You’re acting hypocritically.
I believe in nothing which is not supported by verifiable physical evidence, and my conclusion is a result, not a cause. I am an atheist who came to my conclusion after giving your religion a long and fair try. That is not confirmation bias because atheism was not the position I initially held, nor the one I attempted to achieve by becoming a Christian. You assume your God exists, make up shit to justify it, and call it 'evidence' so that you don't feel like the intellectual dwarf you are for believing in something which is in no way objectively observable.