(April 7, 2013 at 8:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't have to guess, printers put dates on the things they print.......1944.
Don't be smug please. I am asking what "new" evidence Durant was unaware of as you claimed. That is a sincere, fair and reasonable question is it not?
Quote:Don't take my word for it, research it yourself
I don't research mere assertions that something is there.
Quote:Say what things?
Don't you remember your post? The same things Durant says, and Jefferson, Locke, Pascal and even the atheist Wells. ("We are obliged to say,'Here was a man.'")
Quote:They don't lack embarrassing details, and they were -modeled- after the gospels. I'd say that you're entirely too gullible,
You mean like Locke, Jefferson and Durant? I'll take that as a compliment. The only thing they lacked IMO was a rather typical atheist cynicism, mistaken for the skepticismthat is healty and actually leads one to know Jesus as he is.
Quote:there are embarrassing details about hercules as well. "I'm sure it was essentially true that he hunted the Hind."![]()
As J.R.R Tolkien said, "I know a legend when I see one." You apparently don't have his discernment.
Quote:I'm sure that there's probably a decent author somewhere that was a fisherman, but whether or not the gospels are comparable to the works of shakespeare would be a matter of opinion. Opinion..mind you, about prose...... I don't see it, personally. The whole burnt to a crisp and or killed bit, just more myth, sorry, bubbles been burst.
As if that is all there is. Major straw man there.
Quote:Hardly any proof of what? That the gospels we have today weren't written by a couple of guys in a single generation? I'm not even sure where to begin.
Do try. I am.
Quote:That's the nice thing about opinions, we all have them, but what would any of our differing opinions have to say about the subject of whether or not the narrative is a factual recounting of any event, or whether or not some godman walked the earth? Nothing.
Ah but why do such great thinkers believe? This question you cannot answer without beliittlling their intellect, which only weakens your position of course.
Quote:You probably won't be surprised that my opinion of christianity is that it is hearsay. You draw a line where it's important to you,
Entirely untrue. Instead of presenting facts you seem to question people's motives, claim all they have are opinions with no reasoning behind them, compare Hercules with Jesus when millions of intelligent thoughtful people see a vast difference that Tolkien saw.
Quote:Which is quaint, to which I respond "jesus who"?
You clearly are not interested in a serious discussion so I think I will move on now.
Quote:I'd call Ghandi a nutball, but who cares? Again, "jesus who"? What crucifixion, what day of darkness?
Research it yourself?