RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
April 10, 2013 at 12:44 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2013 at 12:45 am by FallentoReason.)
(April 10, 2013 at 12:24 am)Godschild Wrote:(April 9, 2013 at 11:52 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: I would think "faith" is a sort of "trust". The question here seems to be if it is justified trust, like when I get on a bus and I trust the driver not to crash. I would use some simple reasoning that would lead me to think it's rational to trust him/her, such as think to myself when was the last time a bus driver crashed in my city (dealing with probabilities), assuming he/she has been doing the job for years and therefore has the experience (dealing with an understanding of the nature of employment) etc etc. I would assume you think your faith in e.g. the A/S/K method is justified, but how exactly? You have no prior evidence that it works, which means it's literally a blind leap of faith into the unknown. Why not also believe 2 + 2 is 5?
Yes I believe faith and trust are the same and I believe it is true for scripture as well.
2+2=5 is not logical and has nothing to do with faith, it is wrong from our experience of math. Same for faith, as I've seen the results of 2+2=4, I've seen the results of faith, trust and A/S/K in those who were before me and the ones of my age and the ones coming up. Seeing faith in action for me is no different than seeing 2+2=4. This is the very reason God said the anti-christ will fool the entire world, even the elect, if that were possible. Through our faith Christians will realize what the anti-christ sales is false, we will see it as 2+2=5.
You won't have faith that 2 + 2 = 5 because your mind is using the framework of knowledge -> belief -> faith. I'm wondering why for God it seems like we need to think backwards and reverse that order to faith -> belief -> knowledge like you suggested in your other post? Because in fact, if we applied that order to 2 + 2 = 5, then guess what the outcome would be? Yep, it's not looking too good is it!
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle