(April 9, 2013 at 6:54 pm)whateverist Wrote:(April 9, 2013 at 4:26 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Put in formal logic exactly how it follows from God's omniscience that God is required to give people a world without pain or suffering. Why should God even accept the categories of temporary human suffering as having any significant value?
No can do. You can't require anything of that which most likely does not even exist. God does not because He cannot give us a pain free existence because, being only a rumor, he is unable to give us anything. Nor do we clamor for it.
The point was that you cannot reasonably use 'fine tuning' as the basis for your claim that god(s) exist if in fact most of the universe is inhospitable to our existence and obviously not designed with our needs in mind at all.
This implies that the "body" is you. The universe didn't form with our needs in mind? really? You will have to talking to show how this is not true, considering we are here. Your stance against his god doesn't seemed to based on much else then being pissed off you didn't get what you want.
