(April 9, 2013 at 8:29 pm)median Wrote:(April 9, 2013 at 8:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: And yet you want me to prove the existence of a deity you claim is not real even though you cannot prove the existence of an actual infinity. Apparently there's one set of rules for believers and another atheists.
You've missed the mark once again (this time it's the Straw Man fallacy). I never said "it's not real" and never claimed your alleged deity doesn't exist. Get it straight there bub. What I have said (elsewhere) is that there is no good reason for thinking there is some deity (especially one that cares about us, or interferes in human affairs). Get the difference?
But of course, you haven't demonstrated any of that. It's the perpetual "Because I say so" Christian fallacy. "I had an experience and concluded it was Yahweh. And you can't disprove my conclusion. So I'm going to just keep believing until someone proves me wrong. Neener, neener, neener!" If you wish to continue being like a child (Matt 18) - and just as gullible - go ahead. But just leave the grown up thinking to someone else, since you can't handle it.
(April 9, 2013 at 8:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Did I say anything about an infinite god? For that matter did I propose any secondary attributes to the supreme being?
HAHA. So you're proposing a "supreme being" that's not a God by most definitions? Hilarious. Way to dodge.
(April 9, 2013 at 8:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: So you can believe in actual infinities despite, the logical inconsistencies such a belief produces, because its possible. But I'm not allowed to believe in the possibility of a god that is in no way inconsistent with the known universe. You guys really think you can have it both ways.
Once again, Mr. Strawman. Listen up and pay attention. I never claimed I believed in "actual infinities" (by your definition). All I said was that if you can claim a "God" actual infinity then we can claim a global universe infinity. The door swings both ways big guy. We have no good reason to accept either claim. And what we ought to be doing is withholding judgment and waiting til further evidence comes in. But you and your credulous religulousness won't accept that b/c you can't stand agnosticism. Well, too bad. That's not my fault. You should admit when you don't know something and stop trying to stretch the edges of knowledge to fit what you assumed from the outset. We know damn well why you're making this judgment, b/c in a minute you're going to start smuggling in "Now here's why I know we should believe the bible!" NOPE. Your standard of evidence is way too (hypocritically) low dude.
I am ok with your dismissal of " Yahweh" as it is being taught by Jews and Christian. But if this "GOD" is just a living thing that we are part of? And that because we are a complex protein some of the bags of proteins "sensed it"? It clearly is not an "overseer" type thing. But it might be a Thing.