God's God

[median]

@Tex

No one on AF has ever before called me either a liar or an asshole. Apparently, median is just another belligerent blowhard. He has nothing useful to offer the conversation. The thread was soiled the minute he first posted. He's a good candidate for the ignore list.

HAHA. So apparently then, "nothing useful" means anything that disagrees with your credulous warrantless assertions about a "supernatural cause" that is (somehow) not a God, deity, or disembodied mind?

I'm not here to make buddy-buddy with you. I'm here to see whether you theist apologists can meet the challenges that have been set before you. And apparently you cannot, since all that you have presented is either obfuscation or crying.

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@median

You're going to have to believe me that I was thinking about Mayans and Incas. I don't think I have to independently go there and investigate. I don't have to independently experience anesthesia to know what it is like. I don't have to mix water and magnesium and watch the reaction to know what happens. I don't have to break in mustard gas to know it's poisonous. A reasonable way to be taught is by someone telling you. They have to provide backup, of course, but I don't have to witness the experiments myself, build my own instruments, or anything crazy.

Did you completely miss the post? Your examples commit the fallacy of false analogy. Absolutely ZERO of those things (anesthesia, water, magnesium, mustard gas, etc) are supernatural or extraordinary claims. They are quite common and can be DEMONSTRATED with little or no equivocation, and can be used (quite effectively) for making testable, repeatable, falsifiable, predictions. Can you demonstrate your alleged deity unequivocally (in the same exact fashion that you can demonstrate salt dissolving in water)? Someone just telling you about an alleged pet fire-breathing unicorn dragon is far removed from a claim to salt dissolving in water. It really sounds like you are willing to believe whatever tickles your ears and makes you feel comfortable. Do you believe everything you hear?