God's God

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I don't take it literally. You will need to provide some evidence that shows me your "evil god" wrote the book.

yes, religion's power should never be such that it can motivate us kill another human being in the name of 'my god". yes again, to a literal person, thinking out side of the "literal" word makes no sense. Like "that is one bad ride". And we have plenty of these types of atheists and theist. The word means exactly what they see. They see no more.

Huh? Where did I ever say an evil god created this book? Indeed, I never did (mainly b/c I do not believe any gods exist).

To your second point, I really did not understand what you're saying. Please revise. The phrase "that is one bad ride" does not, in fact, make any sense until one knows what was meant when person X stated it. Of course, we can imagine a number of scenarios in which this phrase has meaning, yet religious apologists are making the claims as to what they believe these bible passages actually mean (and they are overwhelming pointing toward literalism, by and large, regarding the resurrection, creation, virgin birth, etc). The underlying issue here is that the bible (along with hundreds of other ancient religious texts) makes extraordinary claims of the miraculous and supernatural (if even those terms make any coherent sense) which have not been demonstrated as true. This is of course why religious people fall back on "faith" when challenged. By why do that? Faith isn't a reliable pathway to truth, nor is it a reliable way to separate fact from fiction.

So on both sides the issue still stands. If one takes the bible at face value ("literal" - but we haven't discussed that definition) then we are asking for sound demonstrable evidence. On the other hand, if someone thinks the alleged miraculous events in the bible are just figurative then the religion itself is of no consequence to us and there is no need to continue debating about it because things didn't actually (literally) happen.

Btw, it might help to define what it is you mean when you are using the term "literal" so as to avoid further confusion.