Are you for or against the separation of church and state?

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I'm not blaming today's christians at all, I'm merely pointing out that your contention that the removal of god from schools is causing society to decline doesn't make any sense because times of maximal chistianity aren't necessarily the most peaceful or prosperous. Of course I don't blame any current christians for those violent times, that'd be ridiculous, but by the same token you can't point to a secular society as being so much worse because it is secular.

I list several in a post to smax, just above.

No, you listed several secular societies that were bad. This is not the same thing as societies that were bad because they were secular.

I do love the double standard you've got going on here, though: I point out that violent and dark christian cultures exist and you immediately leap to tell me it wasn't because of christianity, but evil men. You then quickly turn around and blame nonbelief for anything bad done in secular societies. So systems of belief aren't responsible for evil actions, but only if it's the one you subscribe to? Is that really where you're going here?