God's God

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1) I reject your literal bible. You will have to provide more reasonable proof. You have some convoluted logic that leads you to have to take the bible literally. I don't. Most Jews don't use the torah literally (the old T). And the early church only assembled the bible from a group of writings back then. Your line of logic for a literal bible just doesn't have merit.

This claim is 100% false. Most Jews take many things in the Torah and Tenach quite actually. I have MANY clients who are strong practicing religious Jews and have spoken with many others over the past 20 years who confirm your claim to be false. They absolutely take the bible literally on MANY fronts (examples are: that Yahweh is real, that he impacts our lives, that his law is true and should be obeyed, that Moses was real and interacted with Yahweh, that Moses' pophesies are true and that he was the greatest prophet, that God knows the thoughts of men and will reward the good and punish the wicked, and on it goes).

2) I reject your notion that if we can use it metaphorically that we then can make up anything we want and it be considered "rational". Like your 'evil god" slant. You think that I am wrong stating that "... you are held accountable ..." can be taken out of the bible. You said something like I pulled it out of my butt. Your take on a literal bible is bull sit. So all your claims using a literal bible are bull sit. They are logical fallacies.

now, if you just want to jump around insulting and degrading theist. That's is on you. But don't push you take on the bible as anything more than that.

This is a strawman on at least two fronts. Where exactly was it stated that "if we can use it metaphorically that we can make up anything we want and it be considered 'rational'"? No one has said this. You are just making things up to knock them down instead of asking for a clarification for what is meant by what is stated (i.e. - clarification of terms).

Now, merely claiming that something is "bullshit" is quite different from demonstrating it. If anything YOU are the one throwing around logical fallacies (i.e. - claiming someone said "evil god", when nothing was stated of the sort - strawman again), but even if it was that would prove nothing. The burden of proof still rests squarely upon the apologists who are claiming these supernatural claims are factual and authoritative. Again, just CLAIMING a specific "take" is bullshit does nothing. You need to demonstrate it.

If you don't take the bible "literally" (whatever that word means to you), fine. But apologists quite overwhelmingly do. And that is (at least in part) what this debate is about.

Let's return to the OP now, thx.