RE: Show me your proof
April 18, 2013 at 6:52 pm
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2013 at 6:53 pm by Tex.)
A_Nony_Mouse Wrote:You forgot to point out either those would require mass and energy NOT to be the same thing. And that would imply a universe without gravity or electrostatic force and thus no matter at all and thus you are imagining an impossible set of conditions.
Well, I thought I did by stating there is one law of conservation of mass/energy. I'll state it better next time.
A_Nony_Mouse Wrote:But any "limit" you imagine you can change has to be connected to everything else as it is here OR you cannot use words like mass or energy or bunnies. Remove any connection between things and all of things can no longer exist.
Those were just examples. My proof is not "limited" to those. =p
A_Nony_Mouse Wrote:When you can show more than three outcomes (on edge) for a coin toss that might make sense. Obviously you know nothing all the known possible statistical distributions. OR as with your mass and energy and bunnies there is no statistics at all. Everything is non-random and ...
A coin toss only has 3 options, yes, but I'm trying to describe a infinite-sided die roll. Since we're not rolling for Order vs. Disorder (coin toss, no edge) but we're rolling for every cause and effect scenario out there ever (there is no actual "law" outside of our minds dictating cause and effect), the ratio is not 1:1 but 1:∞.
A_Nony_Mouse Wrote:Quote:Out of the infinite possibility for chaotic universes, there is only one possibility for our ordered universe.
Our universe is impossible to exist. lim(x->∞) 1/x = 0
... therefore the limit equation is false.
I worded this poorly. I should have said, "Opposed to the infinite possibility for chaos, there is only one possibility for an ordered cause and effect equation." However, I was trying to encompass the whole universe and just messed it all up. Sorry about that.
A_Nony_Mouse Wrote:So I have to recommend you learn what the words you are using means and the consequences of those meanings. The best you are doing is saying imagine a universe where there is only magic. That is unrelated to any conceivable reality.
I'm trying to convey the absurdity of the existence of cause and effect. And even magic is more cause and effect (I say X while doing Y and Z will happen). I'm talking about complete randomness. No equation, no reason, no process, just action.
(April 18, 2013 at 2:17 am)smax Wrote: Tex,
The sun will burn out, the earth will become uninhabitable, and galaxies will collide.
At best, you are arguing for poor design.
But the sun burning out has a logical reason to it. There is a coherency to our universe that does not statistically make sense.
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