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1984 & A/S/K revisited

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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited

April 19, 2013 at 1:29 am

(April 19, 2013 at 1:12 am)Waratah Wrote:
(April 18, 2013 at 7:42 am)Godschild Wrote:

When Christ returns the time for repentance for those who have rejected Christ is over, the ones who want the physical proof will have it, however it want count for much except they get their proof. Remember that scripture teaches salvation comes through faith not proof.
If the knowledge of God is what confuses you in what I've said let me explain. Salvation comes through faith, after this one can come into a belief of God through scripture and prayer, after this one can come to a knowledge of who God is through His revelation whether in scripture or a life situation or direct revelation. Knowledge of God comes after salvation, some times many years, it depends upon the persons desire. I hope this answers your question.

Sorry about that godschild. Totally missed it. But really you have only responded to the question and have totally avoided actually answering the questions since we are talking about free will.

You stated that the reason you lose free will is because of the rejection of god, correct?

We all know the answer is yes because that is what you said. It has became quite clear that if you cannot see that is a condition of "free will", which then throws free will out the window then you are blinded by your faith and you have no ability to reason things out.

Yes, I have not denied it. I actually answered your question in my first sentence. Ability to repent = free will choice, you keep this free will choice until you die or the return of Christ, my reasoning is fine this is stated in scripture and it's not my fault you do not want to accept it. The free will we're talking about is from scripture, so why wouldn't you want to find the answer there.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.

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1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 9, 2013 at 12:55 am

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