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Jesus
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RE: Jesus
(April 19, 2013 at 12:22 pm)Drich Wrote:
(April 19, 2013 at 12:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You asserted that in order to be a rabbi...and rabbinic judaism does not begin until the temple is destroyed in 70...some 40 years after your fictional godboy allegedly met his end...
We are not talking about Rabbinic Judaism. We are talking about Jesus being identified as a Rabbi. Two different things Mr. Strawman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbinic_Judaism

Gee whiz, Mr. Cheese. Jesus was identified as a rabbi before there were rabbis. Another of those ineffable mysteries of the christian faith.

Hint: If you want to be taken seriously do not cite anonymous sources like the high school level wikipedia. Only A_Nony_Mouse sources are legitimate.

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Quote:he had to to study a book which did not exist.
The Talmudic principles were orally taught. No where does it say one must study from a book in order to know the talmudic/mishnah principles being discussed here. (If you read the two links provided you'll know it is acceptable to use the terms interchangably; Talmud, Mishnah)

There is no mention of any "oral tradition" until after the out of work priests invent being rabbis and in the process invent the oral tradition to back up their invention. Note it is circular with rabbis and oral tradition supporting rabbis being invented at the same time.

I find it incredible people can know the people named Cohen and such, Kohenim/priests, claiming their name proves their families were originally rabbis and yet not get the joke.

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Quote:Moreover, the talmud is composed of two parts, the mishnah (3d century) and the gemara and the gemara was not written until the 6th century.
It's funny how your dates keep migrating 100 years everytime dates are discussed. At the rate your going if this conversation lasts just a few more turns you'll be claiming that the Talmud was written in 1959.

Last I read the Jerusalem Talmud is traditionally dated no earlier than the 5th. c. and the Babylonian traditionally dated no earlier than the 6th c. Both AD of course. Note of course the term traditionally. I know of no factual evidence, such as mention of their existence until the 8th or 9th c. If you have evidence of something different please post it.

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Quote:I've known for a while that you, like most jesus freaks, make this shit up as you go along but at least try to learn what the Jews were doing. After all, you stole their god for your own purposes.
Appearently your projecting. (The making stuff up/bending facts part to support your arguements.)

The issue is nothing but physical evidence is permitted. Got any?

(April 19, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(April 19, 2013 at 12:50 pm)A_Nony_Mouse Wrote: The entire idea of saving was invented after believers had to face the fact they needed something to keep the donations flowing when people started leaving for the world not ending. Augustine was the greatest contributor to keeping the cash flowing when he tortured the Eden story until it admitted original sin.

A habit of continual reinvention that persists to this very day - every time the world stubbornly refuses to end when the holyman calls it's number.

Continued invention? Every religious opinion on things about which the bible is silent is an invention. What do they really have against abortion? Jesus was silent. Slavery is immoral? A Brit invention. Rifled bullets? Spun by the devil.

Reportedly Thomas Jefferson [early US president] had fun with his red words bible to dump on the savages, aka church priests and preachers. Our approach has a long pedigree. We just don't have to be so circumspect these days.

(April 19, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:It's funny how your dates keep migrating 100 years everytime dates are discussed.

200 CE is the start of the THIRD century and 500 CE is the start of the SIXTH century. Try to keep up will you Drippy.

And 0 was the start of the 1st c.

Back to turn of the millennium fun!

(April 19, 2013 at 1:14 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: And no man in the stories ever complains about that either. Maybe David and I are too fastidious...we always clean up afterwards.

Different strokes so to speak. I've had two wives and three long term live in lovers and I never had an issue or heard a complaint about it nor thinking back was their any behavior which might suggest the women had a problem.

This can be more interesting than, Can you sleep in the light. Care to start it?
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Messages In This Thread
Jesus - by Little Rik - April 18, 2013 at 10:39 am
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Jesus - by Nine - April 18, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: Jesus - by pocaracas - April 18, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Jesus - by JesusHChrist - April 18, 2013 at 11:06 am
RE: Jesus - by Drich - April 18, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 18, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: Jesus - by JesusHChrist - April 18, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: Jesus - by Tonus - April 18, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: Jesus - by Drich - April 18, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Jesus - by Esquilax - April 18, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 3:41 am
RE: Jesus - by Drich - April 19, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Jesus - by thesummerqueen - April 18, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Jesus - by Faith No More - April 18, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Jesus - by JesusHChrist - April 18, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Jesus - by thesummerqueen - April 18, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Jesus - by peacemaker - April 18, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Jesus - by Free Thinker - April 19, 2013 at 3:48 am
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Jesus - by Faith No More - April 18, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Jesus - by thesummerqueen - April 18, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Jesus - by Tonus - April 18, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 18, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Jesus - by JesusHChrist - April 18, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Jesus - by peacemaker - April 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Jesus - by LastPoet - April 18, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Jesus - by JesusHChrist - April 18, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: Jesus - by Cyberman - April 18, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Jesus - by Darwinian - April 19, 2013 at 3:29 am
RE: Jesus - by peacemaker - April 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Jesus - by JesusHChrist - April 18, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Re: RE: Jesus - by frz - April 18, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: Jesus - by pocaracas - April 18, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Re: RE: Jesus - by frz - April 18, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: Jesus - by Tonus - April 18, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: Jesus - by Cato - April 19, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 8:03 am
RE: Jesus - by Cyberman - April 19, 2013 at 8:20 am
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Jesus - by Drich - April 19, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Jesus - by thesummerqueen - April 19, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 6:44 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 19, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 19, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 20, 2013 at 2:12 am
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 20, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: Jesus - by Little Rik - April 20, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 20, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Jesus - by Little Rik - April 20, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 20, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: Jesus - by Free Thinker - April 20, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 20, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: Jesus - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 20, 2013 at 12:42 pm
RE: Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Jesus - by Minimalist - April 20, 2013 at 2:01 pm

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