RE: Proving God Existence
April 22, 2013 at 2:34 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 2:59 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(April 20, 2013 at 8:46 am)paulpablo Wrote: Right if light cannot be reflected off him because he is not an object and it impossible then it's also impossible for him to effect anything else which is an object.How is that?
Can you prove that step by step as I did?
Quote:Also image may not have anything to do with light, you can have a mental image of something that involves no light, but if you want to use it in terms of our direct senses then the same would apply to hearing, or talking.A Mental image is just a memory an approximation to a real image
Quote:Well my counter argument is god can have a son and reflect light, you just don't understand how.You are again mixing science with logic
Let me explain more
We only know things from our experience and observation in the universe
A horse doesn't fly ( from our observation) so it may be possible that under other technology or laws a deity is defying these observation
But defying logic is completely different thing, it is not related to power or laws it is related to our definition of terms (just that)
God can turn a stick into a snake
but he cannot make a stick and a snake at the same time, because WE defined the two terms to be mutually exclusive
Quote:Why can't he live on earth as a creature?Because the words "creature" and "God" are mutually exclusive.
(April 20, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Ryantology Wrote: This makes the unfounded assumption that the universe's beginning, as we understand it, is the true beginning and not the result of a collapsed universe or some other process.Maybe you did not understood my statements well, I considered this by putting E (Existence) which include the possibilities for other universes/objects
Let me make it simpler; just consider the number of events (any event) without thinking about the universe or time
The number of events must be finite so there is a first event.......... then continue the proof.
Quote:This is an intellectually empty set of equations once you assume that G must exist. You do not demonstrate the fact as you state it, you merely state that it must necessarily be trueI didn't state it, I proved it based on the disjoint theory
(April 20, 2013 at 2:46 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:Sorry for the miss understanding(April 20, 2013 at 8:15 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: A logical proof is the strongest evidence ever.
It is stronger than science, statistics or anything else.
Logic is a system for analyzing the validity and soundness of an argument.
I'm not using the full definition of Logic in my proof
The proof is based on just one "Logical" premises
Logical Paradox are impossible to exist
Or in simpler words
two mutually exclusive propositions are propositions that logically cannot be true at the same time.
If you have a problem with the proof, you need to prove me wrong first.