Are you for or against the separation of church and state?

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2 billion a relative handful, your sense of numbers is warped. You did not tell me where you got those numbers.

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Which numbers, the population of Earth and the number of Christians? A Google search. Are the numbers off? You've made a pretty big deal out of everything except the point of discussion, for some reason.

I was just asking a question, I believe I've addressed the discussion well, you're welcome to disagree.

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He has provided a way, just because you do not like it doesn't change the fact that He has provided a way to eternal life. You have already stated you do not want God, even if He revealed Himself, and you stated God should have provided a way for those who would believe. Sight of God seems as you've stated is not a reason to accept God, so God knowing this (it is in scripture by the way) provided a way for those who will believe period. So your statement holds no water. Seems God has found a way to weed out those who would never be sincere.

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Aaaand here we go with more excuses. 'You don't like the way he did it.' 'People won't believe if they see, so he provided a different way.' You keep taking my personal explanation of how I regard your god as a default explanation for every other person on the planet who doesn't accept Christ, thus giving you a convenient excuse for why god won't reveal himself.

Boy you are squirming for something to use in your defense. Excuses, excuses and on and on, can't you do better than this? You are the one complaining about the way God reveals His plan, you are the one who says seeing God changes nothing. There is no so about it, God made His plan before time and it has not nor will not change, you need to either get over your complaint or accept God does things according to His will.

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My back is not against the wall and it is irresponsible to presume so. No, your wanting God to do it your way, the Omniscient God of salvation has provided the perfect plan, the plan that insures all who will believe will come to Him. As far as pretending you believe would be irresponsible, I know you do not believe, I do think it's unfortunate.

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Aaaand even more excuses. 'It's irresponsible to assume I'm making excuses.' 'God's plan is perfect, it doesn't need to be the way you want it to be.' No reasoning behind any of it, but it's the only way to explain why god acts so illogically.

Boy you're hung up on excuses to pull your butt out of the fire, God's plan is perfect, I wanted His salvation and you apparently do not, so where is your complaint that God is illogical. Seems to be working for both of us, but I'm sure as usual you'll find something to complain about.

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Those are not excuses, excuses are for those who have no valid reasoning. Most of those can be backed by scripture and the ones that can not you presumed they were said. As far as the comprehension problem, you read into scripture what you want to hear not what it actually says, that would be your problem not God's nor mine. For one to be dishonest with one's self is to look down on one's self.

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Like I said, this is where these discussions tend to end up. I've tried to avoid this kind of discussion because it's bound to disappoint. There's nothing to learn from someone who eventually falls back on 'you just don't understand.' It's not that your beliefs are difficult to understand, it's just that they're impossible to reconcile without abandoning sanity.

I'm not falling back on 'you just don't understand' I used it necessarily as a positive statement, one that's true, you do not understand anything about God, I understand little but it is enough to fall in love with Him. My knowledge of God makes perfect sense to me and I've never abandoned sanity to understand, on the contrary I've become more real because of God, being a fake is for those who live life for their own purpose.

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My faith in Christ has grown into knowledge, He is more real to me than you are. Now you have once again my true belief. I want fall for your little childish trick and you get upset, you want others even the atheist on this site to take you serious then you need to grow up and act responsible. If anyone is having doubts it would be you, seems to me you are desperate to find out if God exist or not, use scriptures they can guide you to the answer. A/S/K

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Don't worry, your Atheism secret is safe with me... err, and the rest of us, of course.

You're really a sick puppy aren't you, either that or a pre-teen trying to show off, grow up would you.

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That's correct


Incorrect.


You have a comprehension problem don't you, I'm sorry I did not realize you had this problem, why I'm not sure. However, you need to be careful when driving, wouldn't want you to injure someone because you come upon a stop sign and forget what it means, please do be careful.
When you are able to overcome this problem we'll be able to have some kind of a discussion about scripture that will not confuse you.


I gave you viable reasoning, you didn't want to accept it, that's not my fault.
Referring to the mustard seed, Christ wasn't telling His disciples that they should move mountains if they had that small amount of faith. Christ was teaching them with such a small amount of faith God could work great spiritual wonders through them, and that's exactly what happened with them.
I understand that comprehension thing you have.


Both of these scriptural events were planned by God, not Moses or Elijah, they were demonstrating what God could do when they had the faith of a mustard seed, and it happened. Thought I would let you know so you would not have to struggle with that comprehension thing, wouldn't want you to further damage that brain of yours.


Well here it's the beginning of a new day, but anyway I've now given even more reasonable answers to refuse your childish terms. Why want you go to the scriptures and do as they say, I mean you're so afraid there's a God and you will miss out and are afraid the atheist here will make fun of you doing it own your own.

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Funny I how I somehow get it on scriptures you happen to agree with me about, but I have a "comprehension problem" with the ones I don't see your way.

I agreed with you on one simple verse that any child of 4 years could understand. The rest I had to explain to you and in doing so, you've run off on your atheist rant instead of addressing the issue, which is you know nothing about scripture. You really should quite using scripture to defend your point, you fail badly.

But, by all means, continue using selective reasoning with scripture and telling yourself whatever you think you need to think in your futile attempts to subvert the inevitable.

Selective reasoning, show me how I've given different meaning to different scripture.