(April 26, 2013 at 3:37 pm)Tex Wrote: You cannot believe and then ask for murder. You cannot believe and then ask for pedophilic acts to no longer be a sin. There are obvious limits to the prayer, mainly being faith.Well, you could, but that doesn't mean Jesus would approve. Or by belief do you mean more than simply "I believe you exist" but ratehr adherence as well?
(April 26, 2013 at 3:37 pm)Tex Wrote: Specifically, in this prayer, never is it mentioned that God will throw the mountain into the sea for you (both English and Latin). You will receive it through belief, but faith (synonymous with belief), according to James 2:17, is so that you can act. I'm thinking that the disciples would have to work for it. The mountain does not magically get up and move, but it can still be thrown into the sea.The most obvious question that comes to mind is if you have to work for it, then how could you distinguish between an answered prayer and purely your own efforts? In a rather extreme example, I could pray that this post be posted and then click the post button. Did god answer my prayer?
I have a feeling that your response to this will be something to the effect that it allows us to do something we couldn't do without him.If that is the case I would ask how exactly the disciples (or for a more testable example, someone in modern times) would move the mountain in a way that wouldn't have been possible sans prayer.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
