RE: If Not Hell then what?
April 26, 2013 at 11:45 pm
(This post was last modified: April 26, 2013 at 11:58 pm by Drich.)
(April 25, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:2pet2 on describes God ablity and willingness to judge. While Hell is mentioned buy name is has nothing to do with the arguement. The other two verses however do. In that they completely support my arguement.(April 25, 2013 at 3:38 pm)Drich Wrote: I am not looking for a wiki, nor a 'christian' view on Hell. I am looking for specific book Chapter and verse that condradicts what i have said about Hell.
If you looked at the Wiki, instead of being lazy, you would have seen that the wiki mentioned the biblical verses.
Matthew 10:2828 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mark 9:4343 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— 44 where
‘Their worm does not die
And the fire is not quenched.’[d]
45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet, to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— 46 where
‘Their worm does not die,
And the fire is not quenched.’[e]
47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire— 48 where
‘Their worm does not die
And the fire is not quenched.’[f]
2 Peter 2:4
My arguement: Hell is eternial, we however or rather our experience of Hell is not. I per my experience say we will be consumed by Helll or burnt up in it by Hell fire.
Yours/wiki-christianity: People will suffer in hell for eternity.
The two verses you left that actually speak of Hell starting with Mt 10 is the primary verse that supports my arguement that we are consumed by hell fire or we are killed/burnt up. let look at the verse again: Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
You passage in Mark only strengthens my statement that Hell is forever....
(April 25, 2013 at 5:44 pm)Strongbad Wrote: So you had a vivid dream?No, an experience. I experienced Hell before I knew what it was. I live though a biblically supported experience (one not taught through main stream christianity) Long before I studied the subject well enough to full understand what I experienced.
Quote:Big fucking deal – we all have vivid dreams from time to time.I only allow my experience to be classified as a dream for those who simply do not want to believe or do not wish to explore what lies ahead of us. Why? Because technically it was a dream, that said Could the God of creation Use a dream to communicate to any one of us? Yes. Could it be just a drea that just so happen to coinside with an untaught description of Hell held with in it's pages?? The answer to that is Yes as well.
This is why I leave you with an out/oppertunity to dismiss what I experienced as just a dream.
If that is what you want to believe then fine, no pressure here. However if you want to try and change what I believe by challenging or trying to get me to accept your personal trivialization of what I experienced... Let's just say "There's no hope in Hell" and yet I found some. I got to wake up and as a result I will not squander what life I have left because you do want to hear what I have to say.
