RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
April 27, 2013 at 8:47 am
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2013 at 9:17 am by paulpablo.)
(April 27, 2013 at 3:26 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(April 26, 2013 at 3:22 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Also, if the child refuse. This is usually disgraces the family's name. The child is then ostracized from their family or even killed. And, most children at this age barely understand the concept of sex. I also do not see the child not being rape in some societies for denying sex.
The child is treated as property, as the groom usually has to pay the bride's father. No one should be treated as property, female or male.
All said and done. This is fucked up!
What a brained washed stereotype you are
(April 26, 2013 at 3:02 am)paulpablo Wrote: So would it not be simpler just to outlaw sex with 9 year olds? There are a lot more adults who want to sexually abuse 9 year olds out there than there are 9 year olds wanting to have sex, I'm guessing.How can we do that?
Are you going to punish children for having sex (so they are not children anymore)
Sexually abuse a child can be punished by death
Islam allows marriage not abuse, what is the exact harm done on a girl if a judge, doctor, herself & her parents accepted the marriage!!!
Quote:Remember this isn't about whether or not some 9 year olds should have sex it's about whether an adult man should legally be able to marry a 9 year old girl.You are contradicting yourself here, you want to punish her as an adult but prevent her from having sex because she is a child!
I think there's some language barrier here, when did I state I wanted to punish a 9 year old as an adult?
As I said before it doesn't matter whether Islam allows abuse, were talking about a marriage system based on the laws of Islam which makes it legal for an adult to marry a 9 year old this HAS resulted in wide spread child abuse in countries where these laws are in place, not theoretically, there's no saying this might happen, it IS happening.
I showed you the videos of what happens in Islamic countries, of girls dying getting pregnant when they are too young, girls pulled out of education, girls being beaten and so on. These videos were very very easy to come by, why don't you show me videos in the UK of these horny 9 year olds you speak of, protesting that they want to be able to marry a grown man, where are all these 9 year olds insisting that they want the age of consent lowering? Why haven't they banded together and contacted parliament and got a petition going themselves?
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