RE: Proving God Existence
April 30, 2013 at 2:24 am
(This post was last modified: April 30, 2013 at 2:28 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(April 29, 2013 at 10:16 am)Severan Wrote: Your god tells you to accept his existence through a book, and your ancestors;No, in Islam we accept Quran because it has many proofs inside it to show that it is from God
We don't follow our ancestors!
Quote: he also tells you to not ask questions.On the contrary, islam promotes & invented the scientific research for the modern ear
Quote:How can you know for sure that he exists?I gave you a proof that no one was able to refute!
Quote:Also, I could make up any god and make it fit the description of your proof.You mean to name it differently, Yes
I just proved a Model of God not his name
the second part (which I'll write) is to prove Islam itself.
Stay tuned
(April 29, 2013 at 5:44 am)pocaracas Wrote: oh, FFS...I think the proof needs an update (for idiots only)
time, time is not on your side!!!
-If time has a start, you cannot say anything about causation prior to time's existence. Cause and effect requires time... your G=0 is the best answer.... instead, since you want G to be non-zero, you try to define another kind of time, name it p, and say it attests for the dynamic nature of G... what does dynamic mean, here? -.-'
-If time doesn't have a start, then your proof crumbles away.
It all stems from your faulty definition of time as a series of finite events...
There, your "proof" is refuted. enjoy.
The proof is talking about events not time (We actually don't know exactly what is time)
So I proved that events had a start (first event)
That first event must have a starter (which is beyond and outside the universe)
It is that simple, don't confuse yourself with time or cause and effect.