(November 30, 2009 at 7:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(November 30, 2009 at 6:30 pm)Saerules Wrote: The existence of the essence precedes all other characteristics of that essence.
No, it can also be the other way around. As in.. you sense the essence and conclude existence.
(November 30, 2009 at 6:30 pm)Saerules Wrote: For something to have any other characteristics... it must first possess the characteristic of existence (in some form or another). If 'God' is a feeling... then he must exist as a feeling. If he is an idea... then he must exist as an idea.
Observations have obviously been made, and we can conclude the aspect 'exists'. But this doesn't include the whole thing, just an aspect.
(November 30, 2009 at 6:30 pm)Saerules Wrote: Essence is existence... to be without essence is to not exist. How do you justify the belief that 'God' does not exist... when you also state that he still 'is'?
Due to the fact that we don't know everything there is to know about God, therefore we cannot pinpoint 'existence', only 'is'.
You conclude existence because without it there would be no essence.
I have absolutely no idea how to take the second sentence, please rephrase?
You have to know everything to 'pinpoint?' existence...? I don't know everything about cars... does the car that ran me over not exist?
(I was going to write something else here... I played WoW and have now forgotten what it was
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Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
