RE: Shocking statistics about sex
May 1, 2013 at 4:37 am
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2013 at 4:46 am by paulpablo.)
Who says we are treating sex and marriage as the same thing in this thread?
The article you posted stated that underage pre pubescent people are having sex, they are doing it anyway, it is against the laws of islam but according to you if people do it anyway we should just regulate it rather than make it illegal, this shows according to your logic of changing laws if people do it anyway that the Islamic system is wrong, if pre pubescent girls are having sex anyway, islam says this is wrong but you say if people do it anyway it is just natural. does this apply to stealing also?
There are many laws which totally forbid natural desires because they cause harm or detriment to people, there are desires in all animals to rape, kill, the law against 9 year olds getting married, is in order to allow them to definitely go through puberty and complete their education before they get pregnant, become someones wife and so on. this isn't rocket science.
(May 1, 2013 at 4:34 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(May 1, 2013 at 4:23 am)paulpablo Wrote: This article is showing how bad it is that pre pubescent girls are having sex at ages 15 and under, it isn't implying they should get married.This isn't the subject of discussion!
We are treating sex and marriage as the same (in this thread)
Quote:So according to you this wouldn't be allowed in Islam, but also according to you these girls are doing it anyway, and according to you we should change laws if people are doing it anyway, so Islamic law should change to allow sex with pre pubescent girls then I assume is what you're saying?Your thoughts are confused!
Sexual desires is natural, so there is no point of banning it totally
Marriage is the common, accepted regulation to have sex (by most people)
So how can we deal with the problem (it is even stated very clearly in UK by the last article)?
By forcing a marriage age at 16 or 18, while there are about 15 million people in US alone who are already having sex under 16
Or by regulating marriage?
It is obvious that regulating marriage is the answer
That is why many US states are allowing it
Now let's compare Islam to under age marriage in US states
Most states will allow marriage only if the girl is pregnant
It means that they are ok, for a girl to have sex at 10 then get pregnant (there is no punishment) then they will allow her to marry only after she get pregnant
What if the boy doesn't want to get married?
What if the boy is not suitable for the girl?
What if parents don't like that?
What if the boy (and his family) cannot support the couple)
What if .................?
Regulating the marriage and choosing the other partner before marriage is much better?
The article you posted stated that underage pre pubescent people are having sex, they are doing it anyway, it is against the laws of islam but according to you if people do it anyway we should just regulate it rather than make it illegal, this shows according to your logic of changing laws if people do it anyway that the Islamic system is wrong, if pre pubescent girls are having sex anyway, islam says this is wrong but you say if people do it anyway it is just natural. does this apply to stealing also?
There are many laws which totally forbid natural desires because they cause harm or detriment to people, there are desires in all animals to rape, kill, the law against 9 year olds getting married, is in order to allow them to definitely go through puberty and complete their education before they get pregnant, become someones wife and so on. this isn't rocket science.
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