(May 1, 2013 at 4:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(May 1, 2013 at 4:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, Pascal's Wager now, is it? So tell me, which religion? Aren't you at all concerned about the possible consequences of not following christianity?Read my thread about redefining Pascal Wager
Which religion? Anything is better than nothing
However a religion that can be proved is much better than any other
Quote:You were born a baby. You had to be taught the religious stuff later.All people are born as Muslims, it is only when they grow up and embrace another religion they change.
(May 1, 2013 at 4:06 am)paulpablo Wrote: How are you going to prove now that god can never be an object or human?You need to understand and accept the concept behind my proof(s)
It is very simple (Contradictions cannot exist)
If you take any statement or proposition to its roots (defining terms) and find a disjoint, then that proposition is impossible (even for God)
Quote:Do you accept yet that mental images are not always memories?Can you give an example?
It is either a full image from memory or constructed parts (from memory as well)
Quote:Do you accept that not all images are reflections of light?Proof please!
Quote:Also are you going to accept that there is no premise about god which is generally accepted to be correct?This is a big leap, that is why we need a proof!
We start from something accepted (by people who are addressed by this proof) then go step by step to the conclusion
1 how can you prove what is impossible or possible for god?
2 I already told you I had a mental image an animal wearing victorian clothes and talking to me, this never happened and is not a memory.
When I was a virgin I had several sexual mental images of me having sex, yet I still remained a virgin because these things were not memories.
3 My proof as I have already told you that not all images are reflected light is that people can all be in the same room and see different images, hallucinations exist.
4 there is no concept about god which is generally accepted, what do you mean people who are addressed by this proof?
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.