(December 1, 2009 at 6:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: @ Sae: the Jews concluded that God just 'is'. Could it be you could understand more??'just is'? Everything that exists, 'is'... but what is this 'just is'?
As any scientist will tell you, No understanding is considered 'exact' only the best we currently know.
You have many more reasons to believe China exists over God. You can know people 'believe' in God but that's hardly the same thing is it? You can believe the 'idea' exists.
Yes God works. For me I know of no other method. Not that I don't have the utmost respect for the Atheist viewpoint. Even if blindness leads you astray we're all on the same road and fail and succeed under our own efforts.
Just about all of us are existentialists... but we all have different 'proof thresholds'. I wasn't the one who suggested that a person needed to fully understand something to 'know' if it exists
Tell me how that belief is inherently different?
My strongest evidence that China exists is that other people talk about it... other people talk about 'God' all the time 
I see no difference between the beliefs... except that I can justify a belief in China by my standards... whereas I cannot accept 'God' in accordance with my 'proof threshold' I definitely believe the idea of 'God' exists... anything can exist in the realm of ideas, after all How does 'God' 'work?'? Method to do what, exactly? The last sentence makes no sense at all to me :S
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
