(May 6, 2013 at 9:56 am)whateverist Wrote: Rubbish. Unsupported rubbish at that.

(May 6, 2013 at 9:56 am)whateverist Wrote: Science supports homophobia and a ban on abortion?
Who said that?
I said:
Gabriel Syme Wrote:In all contemporary debates regarding (eg) homosexuality, abortion and same-sex marriage, the religious position is backed up by demonstrable scientific knowledge and critical thinking
Thats quite different from your (eg) "science supports homophobia?" remark.
To be fair to you - perhaps I should have explictly stated "Catholic positions" as opposed to "religious positions".
The religious, (in my case mainstream Christian), positions on homosexuality and abortion are:
Homosexuality is disordered (that is, 'misaligned'). Biological science clearly and undeniably describes to us how every human body works. Anyone familiar with biological science - even just at high-school level - cannot deny that biological science demonstrates that homosexual activity is disordered (misaligned) activity. It represents a fundamental misuse of the physical body and its functions.
Abortion represents the destruction of an innocent human life. No-one can deny this: The science of Human Embryology has long since taught us that a new form of life with 46 Chromosomes - which is scientifically defined as a 'human being' - is created at the moment of conception.
You have got to respect science and what we learn from it. You cant pretend it says something else, because it suits you better. Thats just not credible.
(May 6, 2013 at 9:56 am)whateverist Wrote: You clearly do not know where science applies or how it works.
If this is so, please identify the flaws in the arguments above.
(May 6, 2013 at 9:56 am)whateverist Wrote: You leave me to guess but I assume you find support for homophobia from science in the finding that procreation requires the sexual union of opposite sexes?
Theres that "Homophobia" concept again, which you introduced to the conversation, not me. You know, "playing the victim" is a poor retort to scientific knowledge.
What does that word "Homophobia" mean, by the way? Its never very clear.
Do you genuinely consider it "homophobic" to properly understand how a human body works, and the purpose of each of its constituent parts?
Please think carefully before answering!
Do you consider it "homophobic" to speak the truth about how human bodies work?
(May 6, 2013 at 9:56 am)whateverist Wrote: If that is what you have in mind, I am really just talking to myself here aren't I? You fail the test for sapience but are you even sentient?
Well, you are talking to yourself, in that you are putting words into my mouth (about vague concepts such as "homophobia").
However, I am more than willing to engage with you, so there no need to pretend I said things which I didnt.
I look forward to your reply, and I really hope - for the sake of your own crediiblity - that you dont come back and attempt to argue against biology etc.
