(May 6, 2013 at 10:53 pm)Sarcasm Wrote: Damn im lost...what are we even arguing about now.
When I see these long exchanges, I am reminded of the Bruce Lee film Enter the Dragon. There is a scene where another fighter is bullying the young men on a small boat, and he tries to confront Lee's character, asking him which fighting style he uses. Lee answers that his style is called "the art of fighting without fighting," whereupon he tricks the other guy into getting off of the boat.
So what you're seeing in this topic is several examples of "the art of discussing without discussing."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
