(May 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Ryan Wrote:When parents bring a child into the world, they are exposing the child to all the dangers of the world, but how does that make them evil? No parent can change the world so that those evils are not there. No parent makes the world full of evil so as to intentionally endanger their children.
You say this as if I believe parents are evil, I did not, you just want to make Christians look bad even if you have to twist their words into lies, that's totally dishonest of you.
Ryan Wrote:Adam and Eve would never have sinned if God did not intentionally make it possible for them to have sinned. It is, therefore, his fault. He knew what would happen and did it anyway. Adam and Eve were victims of a God who quite cruelly tricked them into sinning. It makes Jesus' salvation a diabolically fraudulent gesture. Jesus is 'saving' mankind from a 'crime' nobody alive had anything to do with,
God did not force them to sin, so how does that make God responsible, and do not give me an atheists typical answer of He had foreknowledge. Foreknowledge does not make one responsible for another's action. If you're having an inappropriate relationship with another person and your best friend knows about it, does that make your friend guilty because he/she did not tell your spouse. As a matter of fact you would call your friend guilty if he/she told on you.
You and I are not paying for Adam and Eve's sin, we are responsible for our on sins. I thank God I'm not responsible for the sins of others.
Ryan Wrote:If you think you are a filthy sinner, it's because you inherited that from a God who made sure you did.
The inheritance comes through the fall of Adam and Eve when they disobeyed God. The problem with you is you're not willing to take on the responsibility of your actions.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
