RE: Abortions
December 3, 2009 at 3:50 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2009 at 3:51 pm by Violet.)
(December 3, 2009 at 3:30 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:The missing half of the ingredients then. If you could incubate and support a growing fetus in a laboratory: it would be equal rights.(December 3, 2009 at 3:06 pm)Saerules Wrote:(December 3, 2009 at 2:57 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: You are not the carpenter, you are 1 of the 2 components of the plywood.
You are not the gun, you are 1 part of the metal alloy.
That fetus needs you until it is self sufficient, that is not what a limb is.
Alright in your analogy: I am what generates the plywood. The other component simply started my generating by adding the missing ingredient
No, the combination of both are what generates the plywood. 50% of the components to produce it (dna) is brought in by the man. Women need men just as much for babies as men need women.
But in using the mother as a 9 month carrier: she has not only 9 months more rights than the father... but she has the right of it growing inside her as a part of her.
Saerules Wrote:A limb needs me just as much as a fetus: without me they would both be lifeless masses of organic matter
leo Wrote:Neither your limb or a fetus is lifeless. it's ability to sustain that life by itself however changes over time for the fetus, not for the hand.I was referring to 'lifeless' in the sense that it does not sustain itself. Once the fetus can sustain itself: it is just a parasitic lifeform until it is ejected by the mother.

Saerules Wrote:Eventually, a fetus could become a life of its own after about 9 months of being a part of my body...
leo Wrote:Could be much less, third trimester is already enough. Not advisable, but possible.
True to that point. I was referring to the natural birth cycle with that statement

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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day