RE: Positive Atheism
December 4, 2009 at 5:04 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2009 at 5:06 am by Violet.)
(December 4, 2009 at 2:38 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(December 3, 2009 at 7:27 pm)Saerules Wrote: Its really simple... when someone says something like 'I like blue'... a person might ask 'why?' of that. You can continue these 'why?'s until their final logical conclusion that a person just needs to accept all things on faithYou make it seem like a straight line from opinion to faith down under. IMO it is more like the roots of a tree, one conviction has many roots which has many roots and so on. Besides the line of reasoning from top to bottom there is need for coherence and consistency among the many branches. Reasoning is like maximizing consistency among all the branches of a certain conviction you hold with yourself and with arguments presented by others. Yes, in the end (at the tip of the roots) all convictions are based on assertions (as Kant says: the thing in itself cannot be known), but there is a difference between blind faith and reasoned opinion. You cannot accept genesis and empirical results from cosmology at the same time. The proof is in the pudding and the eating is in reasoning.
There can be well-justified beliefs... but that also is subjective. Its a pudding that tastes different to everyone.
Every single assertion is taken by faith. Including the one I just said
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Essentially, even the holding of faith becomes circular. Even the most basic 'law?' of our universe (logic) is not unaffected by this. Why is A=A? Because it has to be, or else we can 'know' nothing in this universe, we essentially cannot 'reasonably' function, as all things are impossible to accept. So I suppose I'm a materialistic existentialist. I recognize that we cannot ultimately know anything... but that we must construct our individually accepted subjective meanings and definitions upon what we are familiar and confident with.
I'm confident with science. A theist is confident with their god(s). Is that not the 'problem?' we atheists have with theists?
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