If Not Hell then what?

[Drich]

My understanding isn't necessary.

Actually your understanding is the whole point of this discussion

If you claim to understand and are able to speak on The Bible's behalf, all we need is that in order to have a good discussion.

Have you not been reading any of this thread? 90% of the arguments here are based on what a 'non believer' believes about God Heaven and Hell. The bible almost seems irrelevant to most of the people who have chimed in.

That would prevent me from creating straw-men, at least in that sense. I thought it would be a respectful way for us to discuss the God you are defending, and not the one that I represent in a manner you feel to be distorted. No?

Let's see if you can stick to this model

But, that's what I asked YOU. You claim to know what the Bible says. If i were to make a claim, that would more than likely be your rebuttal-That I don't know what the bible says. But, if you can present the information on God's behalf or the Bible's (especially since that's what YOU are defending), then we will have a solid topic. An interpretation of both God and The Bible that represent your exact views. That sounds like the absolute fairest way to continue this accurately without me misrepresenting your views.

Then when the bible is quoted or I reference scripture you can not default to 'I don't care what the bible says."

hope that at this point you see that you couldn't have misunderstood my intentions more.

There is nothing to misunderstand. I represent biblically based Christianity and if you want to remove the bible from the conversation then the conversation ends.

Right about what?

If you remove the bible and what it says about God, then your right about what you think about god. Why? Because the god in which you speak is one of your own design, as such you have the power to make him out to be who ever you want him to be.
If it is your god you are right about how ever you want to represent him.

Drich, surely you've realized that I don't believe anything the bible says to be true.

If you want to have a discussion about the God of the bible then despite what you personally feel about the bible, you are bound to it when speaking of God.

Just like if you and I were Going to have a discussion about the Avengers issue 152. despite that you saw the movie, or despite what else you read if we are discussing the contents of issue 152 of the Avengers, then it is by that issue of the comic we are bound.

Like wise if you wise to talk about the God of the bible or Heaven and Hell that the bible mentions we are bound to what the bible says whether you believe it or not.

That means if at any point in the discussion you put on the brakes and say "I don't care what the bible says." then there is nothing more for me to discuss with you, because at that point we are now discussing your version of God, Heaven or Hell. To which I am not interested in discussing.

Drich- Believes in a God, and a Bible. Drich understands what he believes to be an accurate interpretation of both. Drich believes both to be true.

TexasSailor-Does not believe in God or a Bible, TexasSailor has yet to hear an interpretaion of either that he believes to be true.

You see how there's nothing else that really matters in this debate? It's just me and you here home-sclice!

That is why I ended the conversation in my last post. I was trying to say both of us several hours of going around in circles