RE: Is psychiatry evil?
May 12, 2013 at 12:28 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2013 at 12:31 pm by dazzn.)
(May 12, 2013 at 12:14 pm)Psykhronic Wrote:(May 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm)dazzn Wrote: Psychiatrists define illness merely by not adhering to norms, per their definition, which are often those of the 19th and early 20th century. To them, anybody who doesn't live in a conservative lifestyle are "ill".
So, according to these "people":
- Spring breakers who get drunk and have sex whilst on vacation are "ill"
- People who smoke weed on weekends a lot despite having good jobs even are "ill"
- People who don't go to church ever and despise religion are "ill"
- People who watch pornography and Hollywood movies containing sex and violence are "ill"
- People who subscribe to relativistic thinking in morals or values, or see no evidence for absolutes in our universe are "ill"
Says who? What psychiatrists say that dumb shit? Is that fundamentally built into psychiatry?
lol..
Most of them have a distrust of modern moral systems and thinking. To them, normalcy is based on being conservative.
Can you prove that most psychiatrists don't deem the aforecited things as "illnesses"?
(May 12, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(May 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm)dazzn Wrote: Psychiatrists define illness merely by not adhering to norms, per their definition, which are often those of the 19th and early 20th century. To them, anybody who doesn't live in a conservative lifestyle are "ill".Norms which are changing, yes, and as they change any degree of deviation from the mean also changes. It's understandable that the data lags behind the trend (as the trend has to actually occur before data can be collected).
Quote:I don't know about you, but in my generation (born from the late 1970s to the current time) these actions/beliefs are the norm by definition since most do/endorse them. Are we "ill"? Who are psychiatrists to label an entire generation as "ill"? If so, this proves that "psychiatry" is not a practice with a benevolent foundation.
Who said you were ill?
(May 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm)dazzn Wrote: Psychiatrists define illness merely by not adhering to norms, per their definition, which are often those of the 19th and early 20th century. To them, anybody who doesn't live in a conservative lifestyle are "ill".Norms which are changing, yes, and as they change any degree of deviation from the mean also changes. It's understandable that the data lags behind the trend (as the trend has to actually occur before data can be collected).
Quote:I don't know about you, but in my generation (born from the late 1970s to the current time) these actions/beliefs are the norm by definition since most do/endorse them. Are we "ill"? Who are psychiatrists to label an entire generation as "ill"? If so, this proves that "psychiatry" is not a practice with a benevolent foundation.
Who said you were ill? You know, you're not actually describing psychiatry right? You're describing public perception and bias. More specifically you're describing moral busybodies who also happen to be loudmouths. None of what you mentioned above is classified as an illness. I think, that if you'll take the time to actually research the subject - you'll find that most of the literature on any of the above describes just how normal it is.
I'm saying if conservative norms don't comprise the bulk of "illness", then my generation is most likely "ill".
(May 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(May 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm)dazzn Wrote: - Spring breakers who get drunk and have sex whilst on vacation are "ill"
- People who smoke weed on weekends a lot despite having good jobs even are "ill"
- People who don't go to church ever and despise religion are "ill"
- People who watch pornography and Hollywood movies containing sex and violence are "ill"
- People who subscribe to relativistic thinking in morals or values, or see no evidence for absolutes in our universe are "ill"
Are you going to provide the DSM number for these diagnoses, or can I just assume you're pulling this out of your ass?
So then prove these are not "illnesses"...
