A challenge about women and marriage in Islam

[paulpablo]

Showing videos of muslims who do beat their 9 year old wives and pull them out of education isn't generalizing or forming stereotypes about Muslims, it's simply showing the facts of what does happen within the Islamic system of marriage. I never said all Muslims do this.

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I can't see anything in any of the links I posted that

1 Wasn't true.
2 Made any generalized statements about Muslims.

I simply posted facts about what happens in countries where Muslims are allowed to marry 9 year olds.

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Some of the punishments that exist in the Shairah might be very harsh and brutal, yes, but there is a reason for that, which is to simply reduce crime rates - and it works.

And it works better than the Western system.

I disagree, I don't think anyone should be stoned to death or have their hands cut off. I don't need to see statistics on crime to know I don't believe in literally throwing rocks at someone until they are dead as a form of punishment.

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Sure, 16 year old humans are often bigger and with bigger muscles than 9 year olds... but what you haven't explained is how that bigger person is more or less vulnerable than someone smaller and with smaller muscles.

I shouldn't need to explain this to anyone why someone who is taller with bigger muscles is less vulnerable than someone who is small with small muscles think about why in boxing they have weight classes, think about why in prison they have young offenders and adult prisons, think about why most club security workers will be bigger and more muscular than the average person.
The fact I am explaining this very basic thing to you proves to me that you're in denial about something. Or just simply trolling this thread.

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WHY is it a pretty good idea to educate children?

go to google and type "why is education important for children"

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Education and good parenting saves more lives.


Evidence of this... is ah... where?

Considering that without medical schools (education) only very primitive surgery would exist anyway the evidence is self explanatory.
That and the fact education reduces poverty, helps people get jobs, again this is another point I shouldn't have to explain unless you are in denial or trolling the thread.

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Consider: we as a species survived with an education lower than that of a stone age for millions of years...

Consider that we survived without C sections for longer than we survived without education and good parenting.

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If so... then we arrive at the ALL IMPORTANT QUESTION: What has differed between a 9 year old, 30 year old, and 80 year old that allows for an identical abuse they experience to be greater or lesser? What *vulnerabilities* are expressly prevalent in 9 year olds that are not found (to the same extent) in 15 year olds or 30 year olds; why are these vulnerabilities greater or lesser than those of 15 or 30 year olds; and do you possess any data that backs up your analysis?

This would be like searching through google to find data on "Do I have two eyes?" I have never searched for it or found data on it because it is obvious.

I have never known anyone in my entire life who was as strong, tall and muscular at age 9 as they were at age 16.

Not by a small difference either, everyone I've ever known was much less weak, less vulnerable at age 16 than at age 9. Apart from in exceptional circumstances for example if they died at age 10. Yet another obvious point I shouldn't need to explain or find statistics on.
Puberty increases strength and height, most people complete puberty around the ages of 14-16

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Or maybe a person's size is irrelevant when abuses are upon them visited. Hey, maybe next you'll be arguing that women are easier to abuse than men because there are more holes in them

Women are easier to abuse than men but it has nothing to do with the holes in them as you put it, it's because they are typically smaller and less muscular than men.

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Read that again. Consider: what do the medical facilities of Chad look like? How about Bangledash? Poor people's medical facilities in India? The dominican republic... Niger, Mozambique, Uganda, fucking Somalia, Ethiopia?

So have you also noticed that all these places with poor education and poor medical facilities are the places which have a lot of child pregnancies?
As opposed to less poor places with better education which don't allow 9 year children to be married or decide to leave education?

Did you consider that?

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Hey paul, I'm not ignoring you, just gonna get back to this later

I was asleep when you typed this so I don't know how could have ignored or not ignored me when I had typed nothing at this point in time for you to even look at, just more babble basically.