RE: Nothingness
May 16, 2013 at 4:04 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2013 at 4:54 am by smax.)
(May 6, 2013 at 3:54 pm)Harris Wrote: I am a Muslim and student of philosophy and comparative religions. I am doing a research work and part of my activities is to surf on different religious sites in order to read people’s religious and non-religious opinions about God. I had been surfing on different religious sites like “Reasonable Faith, Christian site run by Dr. William Craig”, “IRF, Muslim site run by Dr. Zakir Naik”, and some other religious sites including Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Jainism, etc.
It is something shameful what I find on the “atheist” site that I have not met on any religious site. It is the use of extreme vulgar language and disrespect to each other. We can argue on each other’s point of view but argument doesn’t mean use of language that is reprehensible and inhumane.
What I found after reading many threads on this site as if the real joy and pleasure of an atheist is to tease and degrade a person, who has faith in God, down to the level of low life, which is an act of extreme immorality. As if atheist is a little boy, who has pushed his fingers into his ears and starts shouting loudly for the purpose to humiliate the speaker and this act of his becomes the source of his pleasure. In atheism, I feel there is zero tolerance among its followers. To devaluate a person and run away mischievously is very easy compared to stand firm and answer with reasons by being within the limits of respect and grace. We are here to learn from each other not to kill each other. Anyway, knowing all possible harsh consequences in response to my critique on atheism, I still dare to post a question here in hope to enter in a healthy discussion instead of receiving shocking words.
I think a level of mutual respect can be accomplished. However, the majority of religious people expect their religion to be promoted by and practiced in government, and that creates quite a chasm to cross between Theist and Atheist.
Many religious people claim to be satisfied with the separation of church and state, but meanwhile they are pissed off and complaining about the removal of the Bible and prayer in schools, and the ten commandments in court rooms.
The point is, religious people, in general, want to force everyone else to adhere to their beliefs and practices in some way or another. As an example, I would point to a Christian group that got very upset with Wal-Mart for instructing it's employees to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" and preposed a boycott.
As long as Theists want to take liberties away from Atheists, and each other, there's going to be bitterness and a lack of harmony. Personally, I have religious friends, and they all believe, without contradiction, in:
"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"
Anyone who doesn't is no friend of mine.
Quote:Question:
Atheist believes Universe pops out of nothing.
Is there any atheist in the world who can explain what exactly is “NOTHINGNESS or NIHILISM?”
Cheers
I don't accept your premise that Atheists (in general) believe that the Universe "pops out of nothing". Most of the Atheists I know take a very humble position on this matter and admit that they simply have no conclusive explanation for the ultimate cause of the universe. Some may like or prefer the Big Bang Theory, which I believe you are attempting to reference here, but almost all Atheists accept the fact that there is no conclusive information up to this point, and that there most likely never will be.
Most Theists, on the other hand, claim to already have the answer: GOD. They claim god has ALWAYS existed and he created the universe simply by speaking it into existence.
If I were you, and I was at one time (the Christian version, anyway), I'd start trying to get some decent answers about my own beliefs, and leave the non-committal Atheists alone.
Just a thought.
(May 6, 2013 at 6:13 pm)Harris Wrote: Look Mister, you don't have to prove you are an athiest by the use of reprehensible language. Anyway, thanks for showing once again what is atheism.
Define the difference between:
Shit and poop.
Fuck and hump.
Ass and butt.
All words that mean exactly the same thing, only someone (or some people or group) decided that only certain synonyms are appropriate to use.
The funny thing is, it's almost always religious people who are offended by "inappropriate" language. Why? I suspect it has something to do with their brain washed sense of extreme order:
"I must act this way, so you must act this way too. Do it or suffer the consequences!"
"I can't believe that guy doesn't act like me. Make him act like me!"
If religious people could just shake their misguided expectations of others, we might just all get along in this world.
One can only dream.
(May 6, 2013 at 6:49 pm)Harris Wrote: Is there any atheist in the world who can explain what exactly is “NOTHINGNESS or NIHILISM?”
Is there any learned atheist here with whom I can have Literary discussion or this site is ruled by bunch of naughty teenagers only?
First, you are combing the earth in search of someone with an answer, now we are all juvenile idiots because we cannot provide you with the secret of the universe?
