(December 6, 2009 at 4:38 am)tackattack Wrote:(December 3, 2009 at 5:10 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Just because the universe seizes to function does not mean it stops existing. The universe is then still there.Ceasing to function does not equal ceasing to exist. For my purposes of existing, from the perspective I have as a life form in a cold universe(or that of life forms in general), ceasing to function is ceasing to exist by definition of existing being living.
That may be your definition, but the law of thermodynamics you so blatantly tried to butcher there has no bearing on life or function, but matter and energy. You cannot have it both ways. Either you use existence in its proper context and use the laws of thermodynamics in that context or discuss life, but then do not bring the laws of thermodynamics into it.
(December 6, 2009 at 4:38 am)tackattack Wrote: I supposes if motion, existance, gasses and solids are all states of belonging then being at an absolute stand still is a state. I just wouldn't call that existance.
I have no use for your labeling, don't make stuff up and assume that we are on the same page here.
Whether or not the universe ceases to function (where function is also relative, a black hole has no concept of function any more than a flower does) has no bearing on its existence.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
