(December 6, 2009 at 6:27 am)leo-rcc Wrote: I have no use for your labeling, don't make stuff up and assume that we are on the same page here.
Whether or not the universe ceases to function (where function is also relative, a black hole has no concept of function any more than a flower does) has no bearing on its existence.
I definately do not assume that we are on the same page otherwise I wouldn't have looked at this forum at all. I see both your points, it's just in a different state. I'm still a little ify on the how you perceive matter that is at maximum entropy. That's why I'm here I'm expanding my definition of existance to more than just living. It's simply a percieved state correct?
The existence therefore, of a phenomenon, is but another word for its being perceived, or for the inferred possibility of perceiving it. --J. S. Mill. [1913 Webster]
I'm know I'm not the smartest cookie. I may not convey my beliefs very well and have some facts mixed up, but at least I'm genuine. I think I've learned a little for now. It's starting to get a little barbed in here. I came here to grow in my perspective not get attacked. Opviously our definitions of civil differ as well. I'll keep my slanted views to myself then and maybe come back when I can lower my defences again.