Argument from evil, restated

[Praetorian]

Oh for fuck's sake, Chad. The argument from morality as a response to the problem of evil? Ok, sure, let's do it.

If God holds that moral standard, then he knows the difference between good and evil. If he in turn creates evil, which scripture clearly says he does, then he has violated his own standard, and should suffer in hell with us.

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Please Minnie show me how what I have said contradicts what Isa 45 says.

I don't think you've said anything that contradicts Isaiah, but I might add that putting a barrier between the definitions of "sin" and "evil" makes my case stronger. If sin came into the world at the fall, then God went ahead and did bad things in addition to it. If sin and evil is the same concept, then you may still be able to make the claim that the only time God does "evil" is as punishment for those who disobeyed.

My usual contention is that Adam & Eve could not differentiate between good and evil before eating of the Tree of Knowledge, so their action couldn't have been what justifies god's actions by throwing them out of Eden. IOW: it was a setup by the get-go.

This is a very valid point that I was too lazy to make . People who don't have the capacity to decide between two options cannot be held responsible for their actions, especially if there is coercion.