(December 8, 2009 at 8:17 am)tackattack Wrote: I am definately not grasping atheism adn that's why I'm asking.
(December 8, 2009 at 8:17 am)tackattack Wrote: Citing your example lets suppose I believe in pixies and you don't.Okay
(December 8, 2009 at 8:17 am)tackattack Wrote: We could both reasonably assume that we are discussing the same thing when we define pixies. The color may vary but we'd probably reach a concensus that they're small things that have wings and fly and maybe that they carry sparkly dust around.
But here is another person that says that pixie dust is not sparkly at all, and I am just arguing against a version of pixies he doesn't believe in either. And another person believes in pixies with silk wings, while another believes in pixies with transparent wings. And every time I address a pixie from one belief, the other believers are like "Yes, but those are not my pixies".
That is why it is much more productive for the one believing in something to explain himself what he or she believes and why, and for those who do not believe to either accept or reject the existence claim of what is believed.
(December 8, 2009 at 8:17 am)tackattack Wrote: This isn't some conspiracy to admit that you believe in God. It's like saying I'm not prejudiced because I treat all races the same.
Not really, because we know races exist, and we also know that even people who are prejudice against certain races at least can see what they are rallying against. Their preconceptions of the race may be flawed, but they at least know those races are real.
(December 8, 2009 at 8:17 am)tackattack Wrote: So I reiterrate my question: What is your preconception of God? Where do you think the notion comes from and why do you hold to that (if you do)? I understand that it doesn't matter to you because you don't believe in God, but I do and that's why I'm here.
By the capitalization I suppose you mean the biblical god, so the supposed creator of the universe, who also put human beings on this earth as its special project, watches over them, and when they do something it doesn't like wipes them from the Earth except for some small delegation so mankind can try again. Then for some strange reason it feels the need to send itself to the Earth as a man called Jesus so it can be crucified so mankind can be forgiven for doing what humans do.
I don't believe in that one either.
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Leo van Miert
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Leo van Miert
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