What does an atheist...

[theVOID]

No, basically, what I want is to hear what kind of god it is the theist believes in and why, and start from there. Not even theists agree on what a god is supposed to be, so arguing against my vision of a god and presuming that that is your idea of a god doesn't help at all.

Simply denying my question and presuming that I'm going to argue your view or presuming that I think that your idea of a God won't help me is incorrect.

What you are basically doing is something like asking a person who doesn't believe in pixies, what kind of pixies that person doesn't believe in.

I think you still are not quite grasping the concept of atheism. I don't sit around contemplating what god I would not believe in, I just don't believe in any god any theist has ever proposed. You are the one believing in a god, and I don't.

I am definately not grasping atheism adn that's why I'm asking. Citing your example lets suppose I believe in pixies and you don't. We could both reasonably assume that we are discussing the same thing when we define pixies. The color may vary but we'd probably reach a concensus that they're small things that have wings and fly and maybe that they carry sparkly dust around. This isn't some conspiracy to admit that you believe in God. It's like saying I'm not prejudiced because I treat all races the same. Prejudice is a degree to which we have preconceptions which form sub-consciously. I might see a pixie and while I try to treat them fairly subconsciouly I believe their pixie dust is poison and my eyes get wide when I see them. So I reiterrate my question: What is your preconception of God? Where do you think the notion comes from and why do you hold to that (if you do)? I understand that it doesn't matter to you because you don't believe in God, but I do and that's why I'm here.

That's why you need to state what you believe and then we can straight away know what we are talking about.

I reject all god claims due to absolute lack of evidence historical, scientific, biological, cosmological or otherwise. There is nothing about these claims that any of it's believers have any honest way of true, they just accept at face value the testimony of bronze age sand dwellers, primitive, uneducated, superstitious people who knew absolutely noting of the world around them and had nothing to go on apart from their fairly primitive human existence, and guess what... They made a human like god responsible and vanished away explanations for everything. Belief in god has never given us any knowledge, no explanatory power - just the speculation of primitive humans.

The religious look at the universe wrong, they look from the top down, they have to assume the existence of god in step 1! This is why it fails - you can't know for sure there is a god, and believing there is has had absolutely no benefit for our species. There is a better way to look at the universe, the scientific method, it has let us look at the universe, life, our minds, our very existence and find out incomparably more in a few hundred years than belief in god has for thousands of years.

So until you provide me some reason to believe in a god, the idea is just as credible as David Icke's Reptilian master species, which is to say Nil credibility.

So why don't you answer this question: Can you explain what you believe and why you believe it?