(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Quote:
You're evil for thinking that. Tell me, how long should Stalin be punished for his crime in this imaginary Hell of yours? 100 years? 1,000? Maybe we should keep score for how long each life, so each life killed becomes "adequate" to punishment received. But wait, even after, says 20 million lives times whatever amount of years per life murdered, he's gonna continue his immortal existence in Hell. That's me some "justice" right there.
Crimes against an infinite authority necessitate an infinite punishment, makes sense.
(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:[citation needed]Quote:
Says you.
And is necessitated by logic.
(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:My point still stands, because you still don't get it. I reckon it's because you have special meanings for each word he said:Quote:
Well that point went straight over your head.
No it didn’t, he said he didn’t feel the need to rape children, but the only reason he doesn’t feel that need is because of God’s upholding grace.
(May 21, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Don't fret, Sal. Just remember that every time you hear something like "from an atheistic perspective you cannot even defend the claim that these child molesters did anything morally wrong" what they're really saying is "if it wasn't for my belief that god was watching over my shoulder, I would be out molesting children right now."Notice those ["] symbols? He's using a phrase to make a point that theists have a warped view and special meanings for their detractors. Basically two people who talk past each other.
(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Because of the experience of allowing for consent to be violated increases suffering - I don't believe in an objective morality, if that's what you're getting at.Quote:
It's morally wrong because they don't consent to being molested, hence the word "molestation".
That’s not a syllogism, much less a sound one. Care to try again? Why is it morally wrong to violate someone’s consent in an atheistic Universe?
(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:From your statements.Quote:
Nice try again; he was postulating something a theist would say, but I reckon you wouldn't want to lie now? I expect nothing less from such an evil douchebag like yourself.
How do you know I am evil? Why is it morally wrong to lie in a Universe that has no God? You’re just confounding your problems my child.
Tell me, in this hypothetical scenario, what course of action would you do: A murderer comes to your house and will believe everything you tell him, and is looking to kill your wife and asks where your wife is. What do you do?
Do you A) Lie about her location, in essence saving your wife from this murderer, or B) tell the truth, resulting in your wife's death by this murderer?
(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:You're evil because of excusing and even condoning the malice perpetrated by your imaginary god, and in particularly your statement about people being thrown into Hell, where they suffer indefinitely.Quote:
Which is why you're evil. And I won't flinch in calling you evil.
Why am I evil? How do you define evil?
I define evil as an action, statement and even belief that excuses malice, and you are doing that.
(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Nice hand-wave.Quote: Actually, never deconvert - because the only reason you're not out murdering, raping and pillaging, I reckon, is because you fear your imaginary Hell and not because you think it's wrong to do so, but because God tells you not to - not that you'd even be able to realize this Euthyphro dilemma.
O’ brother; Euthyphro’s dilemma? Seriously?
(May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:Infallible?Quote:
Pure speculation, with only religious masturbation to back it up.
No, a logical deduction from an infallible source. Trump card!