(May 23, 2013 at 10:28 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:(May 23, 2013 at 2:49 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: there is only <all there is> without such beings. And there is still <all there is> with such beings.
I can appreciate a lot of what you are saying. However, to me, this statement stuck out as a description of a logical absolute, that is to say, It appears as though (I don't doubt that you'll correct me if I've put words in your mouth...) that you're referring to something existing apart from subjective consciousness, and not contingent upon any other thing's existance and for that matter, a observer of any kind. Is this a fair assessment of your statement?
Yes, it is It is, though... also a position of faith on my part. I believe that there's a universe that has existed long before I came along, will continue to exist long after I leave, and which finds me largely irrelevant... I would never try to prove it though. For all my recognition that we are subjective beings who see at best a slice of this world we are in: I'm really quite materialistic, and a lover of science
I would say that Perceivers add new truths to the otherwise blank canvas of everything... that is to say: every view had by every perceiver is valid and real and true, but each is only a part of the whole, and that without all of them perceived at once from all angles, perspectives, distances: we cannot know what the 'reality' of all of it is.
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