RE: Argument from evil, restated
May 24, 2013 at 12:27 am
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2013 at 12:39 am by Drich.)
(May 24, 2013 at 12:20 am)FallentoReason Wrote: If he's not omnibenevolent, then why suppose he knows the best way to live?
I don't understand the question
(May 24, 2013 at 12:25 am)Ryantology Wrote: That thread predates my joining here, so I could not be patting myself on the back.I can remember who it was but someone else made that same claim, and totally did not grasp what was being discussed. The other person simply kept spouting the typical atheist argument meant to over turn the typical Christian answer to this paradox. My mistake.
Quote:The response is even simpler: If God created the universe and everything within it, and evil exists within the universe, then God either directly created evil, or created the conditions which allow evil to happen, and it follows that all evil is God's fault.So? Again Alpha/Omega (Does what He wants to do/Does not answer to foolish human constructs of what a god is supposed to be.)
Quote: God could have made evil impossible but chose not to, so. God could have created humans to be incapable of evil, but chose not to.Indeed, Blessed be the Name of the Lord!
Quote: Even if he gave mankind free will to commit evil, the evil created as a result of that is still his responsibility, as it only exists as a result of his choice to offer free will.amen Preach it brother!!!
Quote:With ultimate power comes ultimate responsibility. It all comes back to him in the end.So enter Christ on the Cross and the circle is complete!!! Evil in relation to accepting Christ on the cross means We can have our cake and eat it too.
We sin, we are evil, and all of that gets washed away by the blood of Christ, IF and only IF we accept the gift given to us, and Love God with all of our being and love each other as we want to be loved. That's it that's all.
This is what free will is. It is not the greek philosophy of being able to choose what you what when you want. Biblically based free will is the ablity to make one single choice. Whether or not to choose redemption. As we are slaves to sin we will always be sinful in this life the only true choice that we have is the ablity to be redeemed of those sins we will continue to make (saved or not) till the day we die.
Quote:If Epicurus had the chance to read the Bible and saw how God was depicted, he would have known that his paradox was unnecessary, because God himself is a thoroughly evil character.Only if you produce and maintain a self based righteousness apart from God. which is what popular morality/self righteousness is. I don't know epricus but from what I read you are probably right. Who but God truly knows.
