Nothingness

[Violet]

Assuming that logic and creativity are exclusive is making an ass out of you.

How you manage to read that I think logic and creativity are exclusive out of 'not having to abide by logic allows for more creativity' is beyond me... but I thank you regardless: I always wanted to be a donkey.

Their ears are adorable

Just because the post was way over your head, it doesn't give you the right to go on a rant, including an undeserving insult to a hamster.

I've not gone on a rant yet... not that I do not always posses the right to do so. You have the right to rant to, but it'll probably be received less well than a rant by me

How would being abused horribly by a human be an insult to a hamster? You don't happen to be one of them mythical 'Victim Blamers', do yeh?

Aye, I do. I've 20 years of experience pooping, entering bathrooms after others have pooped, changing diapers filled with poop... if anyone knows when shit's out of place: it's me.

LIAR.

Didn't you say that you have 17 years to you? Surely, then... you have 17 years experience pooping, entering bathrooms after others have pooped? You don't have to poop?! :0

I survive being disintegrated by lasers, I can probably survive standing in front of a train.

LIAR.[/quote]

Well clearly, I am not lying... seeing as I'm still here. Rumors of my death must have been greatly exaggerated for you to disbelieve that I yet live. 0.o

Don't know why there would be a train, and why would I stand in front of a train anyway?

You have short memory. Do you still stand by your fickle assertion that perception is some mystical tool?

I don't have a short memory, I have cause to ask myself 'why would there be a train?'... of all the things that might cause damage to me, I assure you: I almost never see a train. Teleporters, cars, planes, helicopters, tanks, elevators... sure. But *trains*? That's a rare sight.

Unless you'd care to demonstrate to me how perception is not a truth that persists regardless of intellect, I will continue to assert that perception is a mystical tool by which a being might know the universe

The metaphysical world of your twisted mind is a fictional world, but to you it is real, so why worry?

As far as I know, I don't have a metaphysical world in my mind (twisted or no). I'd certainly be interested in discovering metaphysical worlds, in understanding them, in existing in them as I exist in other worlds.

Everything is fictional, everything is also real... does this worry you? It doesn't worry me. Should it?

I'm about the kindest mistress in the world.

LIAR.

You keep using that word. I do not believe it means what you think it means.

Whether you're a fake or pretending you're a fake, what's the difference according if EVERYTHING IS REAL?

That's a good question... since everything is real: what constitutes that one thing is 'fake' and another 'not fake'? I could tell you, and I will tell you, but I don't think that you'll learn anything by it...

A 'fake' being is one that is claimed to be another being, but which is not. For example... if a 'shoe' is a being that is worn upon the foot so as to protect such from the elements, then a 'fake shoe' would be a being that is claimed to be a shoe, but is not, whether that mean it is unwearable upon the foot, and/or whether that mean it is not designed to protect a foot from the elements: it does not conform to that defined as 'a shoe'.

There's another definition to something being a fake, but it has nothing to do with whether it be real or not. Probably also the one you meant, unfortunately.

You only wish.

Why would I wish to only exist to patronize you? I enjoy sex and living entirely too much for that to be my only desire 0.o Why are you so egotistical?

Proving myself to a nutjob like you? Now that's a joke.

That's what I said. But hey: your talent of parroting is pretty impressive

Can't connect the dots? Try again.

Have you not yet understood the question? What IS an unreal train? What does that look like? Is it a fake train?

That would leave us asking 'what is a train?', but I don't believe you would understand the significance of that question.

My local train company is in Gigoslavia... They're pretty good about getting me to whichever planet I want to go to.

LIAR.

No lie, and their rates are the best in this part of the galaxy. Which is why I use them, of course.

I just want to see if you really believe that perception is a mystical tool, or were you just bullshitting when you said? I know you are a bullshitter of the first kind, but I want to put it up your face. I'm like that.

I really believe perception is a mystical tool. I haven't bullshitted you yet.

You know that I am a bullshitter, and so you want me to know I'm a bullshitter as well? And you're willing to put a lot of time and effort into that? 0.o As if I wouldn't be the first to know?

You're not, but I am.

Are you? Interesting... I'm suddenly completely not threatened. What are you gonna do? Cook pasta for me?

You've made another wrong assumption, and then you think you know who I am. Your misperception is reaching mythical proportion.

Well, you keep saying 'bye!' and 'take care!' and 'ciao!'... so what am I supposed to think? 'Bye, see you in ten minutes!', perhaps?

Seems like such a waste. I know who you are: you are a waste... so I'm rather confused that you think my misperceptions are somehow more impressive than your own, but then, maybe your intention is to confuse?

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Hi, guys. I'm interested in the topic of the OP, and I have two questions that I hope someone can answer so I can participate in this thread.

1) What are you talking about?

Reality

2) What is its relation to the OP?

Whether nothing is real. Now we've got some fool suggesting that everything isn't real, so who knows what we have to fix in him before he'll start making sense?

In particular, Violet are you just trolling for fun, or are you humorously defending a philosophical/spiritual position that is getting dumped on because you're not a physical monist? This thread now tl;dr for me, but I hope I can get into it.

I'm humorously defending philosophical correctness... that is to say: people are making horrible arguments for things they would like to say, and I am attempting to steer them onto a course for solid arguments for things they would like to say.

Though I am defending a philosophical contention that everything exists, I'm certainly having fun. Anything that looks like 'trolling' is only my counter-observations to some hilarious person's excuse for insults.

I hope you can get into it too, but I don't see why one would just skip by a bunch of posts if they seek to learn... everything (of which nothing is a part, and apart) is a fairly long-winded topic. Make a point anywhere, and I'll meet you there

And probably fifty other rabid philosophers, but yknow: gotta take the good with the bad ^_^

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Ahhh, I am reminded of back in the day when I asked if we could have more images per post than 10.

Still want that. Makes editing a pain after a second post