RE: Nothingness
May 24, 2013 at 7:08 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2013 at 8:07 pm by little_monkey.)
(May 24, 2013 at 5:29 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: How you manage to read that I think logic and creativity are exclusive out of 'not having to abide by logic allows for more creativity' is beyond me... but I thank you regardless: I always wanted to be a donkey.Proof you don't understand your own bullshitting writing. "If you don't abide by logic and that gives you more creativity" means precisely that: one excludes the other.
Quote:I've not gone on a rant yet... not that I do not always posses the right to do so. You have the right to rant to, but it'll probably be received less well than a rant by me
Not only are you a liar, a pretentious little brat with a bad attitude, but your whole life so far is one big idiotic rant.
Quote:Quote:Quote:I survive being disintegrated by lasers, I can probably survive standing in front of a train.LIAR.
Well clearly, I am not lying... seeing as I'm still here. Rumors of my death must have been greatly exaggerated for you to disbelieve that I yet live. 0.o
More lies. At least youre consistent, (HINT: it's not meant to be a compliment)
Quote:Quote:You have short memory. Do you still stand by your fickle assertion that perception is some mystical tool?
I don't have a short memory, I have cause to ask myself 'why would there be a train?'... of all the things that might cause damage to me, I assure you: I almost never see a train.
You should get out more often. Trains are fun.
Quote:Teleporters, cars, planes, helicopters, tanks, elevators... sure.
More lies.
Quote:Unless you'd care to demonstrate to me how perception is not a truth that persists regardless of intellect,
Do you any idea how that sounds if you would know the definition of two words in that sentence:
Perception: "The ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses."
Intellect: :"The ability to think abstractly or profoundly"
Quote:The metaphysical world of your twisted mind is a fictional world, but to you it is real, so why worry?
Quote: I exist in other worlds.More lies. It's really a disease in your case.
Quote:Everything is fictional, everything is also real... does this worry you? It doesn't worry me. Should it?Sadly, there are too many idiots like you in the world.
Quote:Unlike you, I do.Quote:LIAR.
You keep using that word. I do not believe it means what you think it means.
Quote:Quote:Whether you're a fake or pretending you're a fake, what's the difference according if EVERYTHING IS REAL?
That's a good question... since everything is real: what constitutes that one thing is 'fake' and another 'not fake'? I could tell you, and I will tell you, but I don't think that you'll learn anything by it...
You think you're cool when you pretend to be serious, but in between the lines, anyone can see you're grasping at straws.
Quote:A 'fake' being is one that is claimed to be another being, but which is not. For example... if a 'shoe' is a being that is worn upon the foot so as to protect such from the elements, then a 'fake shoe' would be a being that is claimed to be a shoe, but is not, whether that mean it is unwearable upon the foot, and/or whether that mean it is not designed to protect a foot from the elements: it does not conform to that defined as 'a shoe'.
Stop going on a tangent. The discussion is about cartoon characters, whether they are real or not.
Quote:Why are you so egotistical?
It takes one to know one
Quote:LIAR.Quote:Proving myself to a nutjob like you? Now that's a joke.
That's what I said. But hey: your talent of parroting is pretty impressive
Quote:No lie, and their rates are the best in this part of the galaxy. Which is why I use them, of course.
More lies. When you're on a roll, you go girl.
Quote:You know that I am a bullshitter, and so you want me to know I'm a bullshitter as well? And you're willing to put a lot of time and effort into that? 0.o As if I wouldn't be the first to know?
Your pride is misguided. Bullshitting is NOT a badge of honor.
Quote:Quote:You're not, but I am.
Are you? Interesting... I'm suddenly completely not threatened.
Weird that a word like "ciao" could threaten you.
Quote:What are you gonna do? Cook pasta for me?
What for? You wouldn't know the difference between real pasta and fake pasta.
Quote:Quote:You've made another wrong assumption, and then you think you know who I am. Your misperception is reaching mythical proportion.
Well, you keep saying 'bye!' and 'take care!' and 'ciao!'... so what am I supposed to think? 'Bye, see you in ten minutes!', perhaps?
Seems like such a waste. I know who you are: you are a waste... so I'm rather confused that you think my misperceptions are somehow more impressive than your own, but then, maybe your intention is to confuse?
Look who is running away. Can't take the heat, liar?
(May 24, 2013 at 6:19 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(May 24, 2013 at 5:29 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Though I am defending a philosophical contention that everything exists, I'm certainly having fun. Anything that looks like 'trolling' is only my counter-observations to some hilarious person's excuse for insults.
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Make a point anywhere, and I'll meet you there
Okay, let's start with semantics. Everything exists for sure, because "thing" implies existence. The question is whether it exists only as a concept, or as an object locatable in time and place (or some other framework). I'm pretty sure that there are no Invisible Pink Unicorns which can be located in our universe at any time, but IPU's existence as an important atheist meme can't really be disputed.
"Nothingness," I think, can only exist as a concept. To establish the "real" existence of something, it would have to be part of some framework (probably spacetime)-- and a framework is something. The fact that ANYTHING exists means that nothingness is impossible, because that particular nothingness has a property-- the potential for non-nothingness. And I'd say that a property is definitely something.
Benny, not the metaphysical thing again...
Joe