(May 26, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Origen Wrote: What kind of free existence would we have if God held up his hand and stopped all natural things from happening? We would then be toys in God's diorama.
What this implies is that existence is not worth having unless the universe is such that we can die randomly and in great suffering. I want to follow this to its logical conclusion, so bear with me:
Assuming God exists:
1. Natural disasters and death are both real.
2. Natural disasters are a grave threat to us because we were expelled from the Garden of Eden thanks to Adam's sin.
3. Random natural disaster is necessary for free existence, otherwise we'd be toys in God' diorama.
4. Free existence is the optimal state of existence.
5. The freedom of free existence is the freedom to sin.
6. Without sin, there is no freedom
7. Through Christ one finds redemption and everlasting life in the Kingdom of Heaven.
8. In the Kingdom of Heaven, there is no sin or natural disaster.
9. In the Kingdom of Heaven, there is no free will or free existence.
10. In the Kingdom of Heaven, we are all toys in God's diorama.
11. This is inferior to free existence, as your post implies.
12. Therefore, living in sin and danger is preferable to living with God in Heaven and heaven should be avoided.